there is 5th gen lude., I might buy 97 SH red 88k 6100 $, Also this car has small dent on the front hood from hitting box in the garage. $300 is the estimate from body shop to repair.

here is the Carfax, I wanna see what you guys think :
he story of this 1997 HONDA PRELUDE (JHMBB6144VC013149) according to our
interpretation of the information reported to CARFAX:
Blue Arrow This coupe has had 1 owner in Oklahoma. The first title for this
coupe was reported to CARFAX by an Oklahoma DMV in 1997.
Blue Arrow It was involved in an accident in Kansas that was reported to the
police.
Blue Arrow It has had no DMV-reported total loss events, like a major accident,
fire or flood.
Blue Arrow It has not been reported by a DMV as having an Exceeds Mechanical
Limits or Not Actual Mileage title.
Blue Arrow It has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an
odometer rollback. It was driven an average of 13,403 miles per year, which is
slightly lower than the industry average of 15,000. The last odometer reading,
reported on 04/21/2003, was 75,066 miles.
Blue Arrow It was not reported to a DMV as a Manufacturer Buyback (LEMON).
Blue Arrow Its basic warranty has expired. You may want to discuss an extended
warranty with your dealer.
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Report Summary

1. ACCIDENT CHECK
Total Loss Check No Severe Accidents Reported to DMV - Buyback
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Other Accident Indicators Accident Indicator Reported

2. MILEAGE ACCURACY CHECK
Truth-In-Mileage Check No Odometer Problems Reported to DMV - Buyback
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Odometer Rollback Check No Potential Odometer Rollback Found
Mileage Consistency Check No Inconsistent Odometer Reading Found

3. LEMON CHECK®
No Mfr. Buyback Reported to DMV - Buyback Guarantee!

4. OWNERSHIP CHECK
Number of Owners 1 Estimated Owner(s)
Type of Owners Checked 8 Types of Vehicle Registrations

5. RECALL CHECK
HONDA Does Not Report Recalls to CARFAX

6. WARRANTY CHECK
No Coverage Remaining on Basic Warranty. Interested in an Extended
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DETAILED VEHICLE HISTORY 9 HISTORY RECORDS REPORTED
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Year/Make/Model: 1997 HONDA PRELUDE

Body Style: COUPE
Engine: 2.2L L4 DOHC PFI 16V
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: FRONT WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: JAPAN
Safety Equipment: 4 wheel ABS, Dual front air bags/active (manual) belts
Standard Equipment: Power Windows, Power Steering, Air Conditioning, AM / FM CD,
Power Brakes, Power sun / moon roof, Tilt Wheel, 6-digit Odometer
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Total Loss Check:

GOOD NEWS! No severe damage events were ever reported by a DMV for this 1997
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problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy
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Salvage Title Loss Due To Fire Title
Junk Title Flood Damage Title
Rebuilt/Reconstructed Title Hail Damage Title
Dismantled Title Canadian Total Loss

Other Accident Indicators:

This 1997 HONDA PRELUDE (JHMBB6144VC013149) had accident indicators reported
to CARFAX from its sources. This section checks for accidents and/or related
damage reported from many public and private sources. Not all accidents are
reported to CARFAX. A vehicle inspection completed by your dealer or
professional mechanic is recommended.

No Salvage Auction Record Reported No Crash Test Vehicle Record Reported
No Fire Damage Record Reported No Airbag Deployment Record Reported
Police Accident Record Reported No Damage Disclosure Record Reported


Accident Report Date: Source: Detail:
01/03/2001 Kansas Police Report Accident Reported
in Johnson County
Vehicle involved in crash
with another motor vehicle
Minor damage reported

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* Kansas provides an estimate of the extent of damage in its accident
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damage levels:
o SEVERE: The vehicle cannot be driven from the accident scene due to
severe damage or an injury. This level of damage often results in a Salvage or
Junk title. Check Section 1 - Total Loss Check for these problem titles.
o MODERATE: The accident damage affects the operation of the vehicle
and/or its parts. Examples include broken windows, trunk lids, doors, bumpers
and tires.
o MINOR: The accident damage does not affect the operation of the
vehicle. Examples include dented bumpers, fenders, grills and body panels. This
level of accident should not compromise vehicle safety.
o NO DAMAGE: The vehicle was not damaged.
* Are processed if the estimated damage exceeds $500
* Are released annually to CARFAX in March

According to the National Safety Council, Injury Facts, 2003 edition, 12% of
the 243 million registered vehicles in the U.S. were involved in an accident in
2002. Over 90% of these were considered minor or moderate.
CARFAX depends on public and private sources for its accident data. Each one
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Truth-In-Mileage Check:

GOOD NEWS! No major odometer problems were ever reported by a DMV under the
Truth-In-Mileage Act for this 1997 HONDA PRELUDE (JHMBB6144VC013149). If you
find that any of the following odometer problems were reported by a DMV and not
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Not Actual Mileage Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses mileage
fraud or a broken odometer.
Exceeds Mechanical Limits Title - issued by DMV when the owner discloses an


Odometer Rollback Check:

CARFAX found no odometer rollbacks for this 1997 HONDA PRELUDE
(JHMBB6144VC013149). Rollbacks reported in this section originate from readings
collected by a DMV or other verifiable source.

Mileage Consistency Check:

CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this
1997 HONDA PRELUDE (JHMBB6144VC013149).


Date: Mileage:
11/04/1997 333
02/03/2000 26,640
06/04/2001 39,005
09/04/2001 55,051
04/21/2003 75,066

Average miles driven per year 13,403 CARFAX AdvisorTM Compare this vehicle's
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GOOD NEWS! No manufacturer buyback was ever reported by a DMV for this 1997
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Ownership History:

CARFAX estimates that this 1997 HONDA PRELUDE (JHMBB6144VC013149) had 1
owner(s). CARFAX analyzed this vehicle's title history and other supporting
events to identify potential ownership transfers. In compliance with the U.S.
privacy laws, CARFAX does not collect or report owner names or addresses.

Estimated Owners: Date: Location:
1st owner 11/04/1997 Oklahoma

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Types of Owners:

This 1997 HONDA PRELUDE (JHMBB6144VC013149) was checked for 8 types of
registrations.

Personal Use Registration Reported No Fleet Registration Reported
No Lease Registration Reported No Commercial Registration Reported
No Rental Registration Reported No Non-Profit Registration Reported
No Taxi Registration Reported No Built to Non U.S. Standards Record
Reported

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HONDA does not report recall information for specific vehicles to CARFAX.
Go to the CARFAX SAFETY & RELIABILITY REPORT for recalls issued by the National
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For your convenience, CARFAX has estimated the remaining original
manufacturer warranty coverage based on information reported to us on this 1997
HONDA PRELUDE (JHMBB6144VC013149). Please confirm remaining factory warranty and
extended warranty options with your dealer. Interested in an extended warranty?

Estimated start date of warranty: 09/15/1997
Last reading reported on 04/21/2003: 75,066 miles Recalculate with current
mileage
Today's Date: December 16, 2004

Type of Coverage: Original Warranty: Estimated Remaining Coverage:
Basic 36 months or 36,000 miles Coverage expired
Drivetrain 36 months or 36,000 miles Coverage expired
Emissions 24 months or 24,000 miles Coverage expired
Corrosion 60 months or unlimited mileage Coverage expired
Transferable Transferable at no cost Same
Roadside Assistance No data reported to CARFAX
Safety Belt & Inflatable Restraint No data reported to CARFAX
Specific Components 96 months or 80,000 miles 9 months or 4,934 miles
Notes: Manufacturer covers emissions components under basic warranty. Emissions
coverage may vary by state. Refer to owners manual for specific details.
Transferable: no cost, unlimited owners covered.


CARFAX Warranty Check provides an estimate of this vehicle's remaining
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For example, major accidents resulting in Salvage or Junk titles that may void
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manufactured for sale in the US. Complete warranty coverage information is
available for this vehicle at the HONDA web site.

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CARFAX searched more than 3 billion records from over 5,300 sources and found 9
record(s) for this 1997 HONDA PRELUDE (JHMBB6144VC013149).

Date:
Mileage Reading:
Source:
General Comments:
09/15/1997 Oklahoma
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Stillwater, OK
Registered as
personal vehicle
11/04/1997 333 Oklahoma
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Stillwater, OK
Title #601797308013
Title issued or updated
First owner reported
02/03/2000 26,640 Kansas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Title #K0443033
Title issued or updated
01/03/2001 Kansas
Police Report
Case #200100707490
Accident Reported
in Johnson County
Vehicle involved in crash
with another motor vehicle
Minor damage reported
06/04/2001 39,005 Missouri
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Nevada, MO
Title #QB097381
Title issued or updated
Loan or lien reported
09/04/2001 55,051 Kansas
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Title #L0991045
Title issued or updated
Loan or lien reported
04/21/2003 75,066 Missouri
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Kansas City, MO
Title #CM202943
Title issued or updated
Loan or lien reported
08/15/2003 Missouri
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Kansas City, MO
Title #CM202943
Title or registration issued
Loan or lien reported
11/11/2004 Private Owner
Kansas City, MO
Vehicle offered for sale
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police report is filed. The level of detail in the accident record varies by
state depending on the state's accident report requirements. CARFAX recommends
you obtain a vehicle inspection from your dealer or an independent mechanic for
any car involved in an accident.
* First Owner
When the first owner(s) obtains a title from a Department of Motor Vehicles
as proof of ownership.
* Personal Use
Vehicle was registered by the owner for private or personal use.


I will drive it and buy it tomorrow if the test drive was aight.

lemme know whatcha guys thinkin about it









Modified by DeltaX at 2:02 AM 12/16/2004


Modified by DeltaX at 2:08 AM 12/16/2004

 

That car is not a type SH. Notice it doesn't say it anywhere in the carfax? Also, from looking at the picture proves my case, it's a base model.

Other than that, it's cheap for a 97 base model w/ 88K.

IMO, before you buy the car, ask about maintenance.

1) Have the timing belt & tensioner been replaced?
2) Valves adjusted?
3) Water pump replaced?
4) All the belts new?
5) Oil changed at xxxx miles?
6) Tires & brakes pad replaced?

If not, that explains the cheap price. It will cost you $$$ later down the road.

IMHO, i would pass on it.

 

thnx aso much

I agree

Oil changed every 3k miles, new pads/tired. But they didnt change timing belt/water pump. and valves werent adjusted

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DeltaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thnx aso much

I agree

Oil changed every 3k miles, new pads/tired. But they didnt change timing belt/water pump. and valves werent adjusted</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's why the car is cheap. You're going to have get those things done. It's going to cost you about $$$$$ to do it. It will offset the cheap price. It will cost you more if you ignore it and the timing belt snaps.

Don't rush into buying it yet. Look around, good deals are out there.

I just bought a 4 gen prelude VTEC w/ 88K for $5K. Luckily, it was owned by the son of the guy who owns the dealership.

It had everything done, timing belt, pump, belts, valves adjusted, new rotors/pads, tires, and an Apexi N1 exhaust. It was maintained very well.

 

thats cheap for 4th gen lude well maintained

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That car is not a type SH. Notice it doesn't say it anywhere in the carfax? Also, from looking at the picture proves my case, it's a base model.</TD></TR></TABLE>

As far as I knew, well in Canada anyways, there is only 2 models of the 5th gen Preludes......the SH which is a 5 speed (which this one is) and the base, or SE model which only comes in an Auto.

It seems that this Prelude is an SH, unless it was converted into a 5 speed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DeltaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats cheap for 4th gen lude well maintained
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks, it was a steal.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lewdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

As far as I knew, well in Canada anyways, there is only 2 models of the 5th gen Preludes......the SH which is a 5 speed (which this one is) and the base, or SE model which only comes in an Auto.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm pretty sure Canada Preludes aren't that much different from USDM Preludes. But from the pictures, there's no way that car is a type SH. Also, the first owner of the car registered it in Oklahoma, so the Canada statement is irrevelant.

Here's my reasons:

1) The rims are base model's
2) The side/rear skirt is unpainted (found on base models)
3) There is no type SH sticker on the trunk
4) The shift **** shown in the picture is a base model's, type SH's are rounder
5) If it was a type SH, it would have been stated in the carfax, converted or not
6) I have owned a 2000 type SH, I know my Preludes

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It seems that this Prelude is an SH, unless it was converted into a 5 speed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

WTF, how/why would somone convert a type SH (already a 5 speed) into a 5 speed? You just made no sense.

 

sorry guys

she said non sh, I just thought SH cuz of the leather seats

sorry

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DeltaX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry guys

she said non sh, I just thought SH cuz of the leather seats

sorry</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol, i never thought it was an SH. you and lewdude did.

leather seats is an after-market option. type SH's don't come with leather.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sticky Tires &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Here's my reasons:

1) The rims are base model's
2) The side/rear skirt is unpainted (found on base models)
3) There is no type SH sticker on the trunk
4) The shift **** shown in the picture is a base model's, type SH's are rounder
5) If it was a type SH, it would have been stated in the carfax, converted or not
6) I have owned a 2000 type SH, I know my Preludes

WTF, how/why would somone convert a type SH (already a 5 speed) into a 5 speed? You just made no sense.

</TD></TR></TABLE>

What I meant was that if it was a base model, it could have been converted to a 5 speed as I thought there was no such thing as a base model with a 5 speed.

1. When you buy the car new, you can get any type of rim that you want, there is more than one to choose from.

2. Your second point is true, not sure about that one.

3. The sticker comes off pretty easy, it could have been taken off.

If im wrong, then im wrong, but my main argument is that I thought that there was no such thing as a base model that has a manual transmission.


*edit*
I didnt see the results, hmmm, I've never seen a base that is manual.

 

You have a lot to learn young grass hopper.

 

lol, I guess so. Ya learn something new everyday.

What is the difference between the 5th gen base manual transmission and the SH?
Is it just the ATTS that is on the SH?
I've just never seen a base that is 5speed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lewdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

What is the difference between the 5th gen base manual transmission and the SH?
Is it just the ATTS that is on the SH?
I've just never seen a base that is 5speed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the SH has ATTS, slightly different front suspension, mainly cosmetic stuff like painted side/rear skirts, rounder shift ****, courtesy door lights, the rims, spoiler comes standard.

also the some internal engine parts are different, exhaust length...etc there's a lot of little things. do a search in ARCHIVES for "Base vs. SH", you'll find some info.

I know why you never seen a base w/ 5spd, it's because you live in Canada.

 

I drive a Canadian 5spd base...they are common enough

 

lewdude, here's my witness. ^^

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Featherfire &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I drive a Canadian 5spd base...they are common enough
</TD></TR></TABLE>

So it's the same as the SH but with no ATTS correct¿ I just want to get this sorted out so it doesn't drive me nuts thinking about it......I mean, what else am I going to do at work¿

*Edit* Oops, I didnt see the reply that Sticky Tires sent. I think I got it now, thanks all.

 

I called the lady asking about the accident, she stated she bever had accident, after lookin tru Carfax, accident occured before she bought it which is from the Dodge Dealer up here. I guess shes willin to negotiate. my ride is comin in 30 minutes,

wish my luck

later guys