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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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do you need insurance to register/change ownership of a bike?

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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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same process as a car
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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i take it as a yes? i wouldn't know because legally it's my dad's car
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 11:54 PM
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yes when you pay for registration next year, no for change of ownership
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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when i bought my bike and change ownership, tripple A didnt ask me for proof of insurance.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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AAA is great for registering cars.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by usdmPC3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AAA is great for registering cars. </TD></TR></TABLE>

AAA doesnt ask for !@#$ + no wait in line
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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I had insurance way before registering and changing ownership, but when i actually went to do it, they never asked about insurance. In all honesty it shouldn't matter, because if you bought a project bike, wrecked bike or a track bike, insurance wouldn't matter.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 02:01 AM
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ok insurance question out of the way, thanks guys

now a new challenge! i've searched around; ahh CA is nice but our emission suck...

sooo any ideas on how to get a new bike registered here from outofstate, the deals in other states are ridiculous (i.e. 7699 OTD shipped R6 Raven from Ohio!) I heard most of the loop holes but they arent that easy... so most likely I'll just get a CA bike so I dont have to deal with the drama, but if any of you know a way..

thanks all!
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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IIRC, it has to have over 7000 miles to transfer to CA. So you can't. Emissions doesn't factor in to it, as bikes are not smogged at all. Yet.

You could borrow an odometer from a high milage bike, get it reg'd, then swap them back. But that would be illegal.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Matt Groove &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok insurance question out of the way, thanks guys

now a new challenge! i've searched around; ahh CA is nice but our emission suck...

sooo any ideas on how to get a new bike registered here from outofstate, the deals in other states are ridiculous (i.e. 7699 OTD shipped R6 Raven from Ohio!) I heard most of the loop holes but they arent that easy... so most likely I'll just get a CA bike so I dont have to deal with the drama, but if any of you know a way..

thanks all!</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you are the owner out of state, you CAN bring it here... but if you live here, you can not bring one in unless it has at least 7500 miles. you can do the speedo swap or you can try and get the emision plaque for 50 state. to me the easiest is to have someoneout of state buy it for you then move here(not literally) the sell it or gift it to you.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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Yeah listen to this guy .... 7500 not 7000.

MSchu, I didn't think you could do the sell or gift thing unless the milage req. was already met?

Is the plaque thing you mentioned anything like the bar stickers that the hybrid car guys do??

I might buy an out of state low milage bike soon.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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No the plaque is a manufacturing plaque that is either part of the chassis VIN or usually on the rear fender/ battery bucket... different makers put it in different places over different years. I have seen some as simple as replacing a rear inner fender with a california version, but the makers have gotten wise I am sure. what DMV is looking for is a 50 state compliance notification. Some bikes for all states may indeed already be 50 state legal from outside california, but some are not. there is no cerification in calif for bikes like the BAR sticker we get for our hybrid cars, they either license it or they don't. I have personally done this technque a few years ago... have a relative buy the bike out of state, then have them apply for a california state license and register the bike. then sell or gift it to you. I know a couple people that maintain two residence's, one in calif and one out of calif, for this alone... Mums the word
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No the plaque is a manufacturing plaque that is either part of the chassis VIN or usually on the rear fender/ battery bucket... different makers put it in different places over different years. I have seen some as simple as replacing a rear inner fender with a california version, but the makers have gotten wise I am sure. what DMV is looking for is a 50 state compliance notification. Some bikes for all states may indeed already be 50 state legal from outside california, but some are not. there is no cerification in calif for bikes like the BAR sticker we get for our hybrid cars, they either license it or they don't. I have personally done this technque a few years ago... have a relative buy the bike out of state, then have them apply for a california state license and register the bike. then sell or gift it to you. I know a couple people that maintain two residence's, one in calif and one out of calif, for this alone... Mums the word</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, me too. cough cough me cough cough.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Matt Groove &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok insurance question out of the way, thanks guys

now a new challenge! i've searched around; ahh CA is nice but our emission suck...

sooo any ideas on how to get a new bike registered here from outofstate, the deals in other states are ridiculous (i.e. 7699 OTD shipped R6 Raven from Ohio!) I heard most of the loop holes but they arent that easy... so most likely I'll just get a CA bike so I dont have to deal with the drama, but if any of you know a way..

thanks all!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Once you pay for local registration, taxes, and shipping to get it to cali from Ohio, you would be over what CA is charging OTD for the exact same bike. Not worth it dude.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MAD1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Once you pay for local registration, taxes, and shipping to get it to cali from Ohio, you would be over what CA is charging OTD for the exact same bike. Not worth it dude.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Most of the time you are right, but there are some bikes that we can not get here... like the Aprilia SP from 2001 :-P
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MAD1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Once you pay for local registration, taxes, and shipping to get it to cali from Ohio, you would be over what CA is charging OTD for the exact same bike. Not worth it dude.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sometimes its worth it. 04 gsxr750's were going for 8k otd in NH when I couldn't even find one here.
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