Hey guys, not sure if any of you know me. But I recently wrecked my hybrid VX hatch and picked up an EP3 from a member here [kwik2nec] for my daily driver..

I love the car, its smooth and powerful for the everyday commute. Now the thing is I doubt I'll drop a dime into the car in regards of aftermarket because I bought another project car. So the only thing I am really concerned about is mainteance..

I have the Clutch MC squeak, gonna get that warrantied and fixed. But other than that there are no problems, I bought the car with about 16,500 miles on it and there are about 18,000 on it now..

I was wondering if anyone had the list of schedule mainteance items to take care of, I am pretty mechnically inclined as I've worked on B motors and all... Do you guys think buying a helms for the EP3 would be a good idea..

I just wanted the mileage and list of what mainteance items to take care of, just so I can be prepared..

thanks again
-Navin

 

glad to see you got a EP! What color is it, maybe I'll see ya on the street.

-Victor

 

Hey Vic, its a silver EP3. If you saw a bone stock silver EP with some poltical crap written on the back window that was me

I've seen George's EP around sometimes I think...

 

the helms manual, which i have, is always a great investment...

http://helminc.com/helm/homepage.asp?r=

 

I plan on buying one later, but can someone just post the list of schedule mainteance items/mileage..

just so I have a general knowing before I purchase the helms, I am trying to keep my daily driver in good shape

 

I will pull out the manual later and quote if no one beats me to it, but there really isnt that much now. It recommends oil changes every 5k or 6 months, tranny oil every 3 years and I think brake fluid every 3 years. Other than those things I think the rest fall under "the dealer is going to do the inspection and charge a ton category, to tell you its all good." They dont even recommend a tune up until 110K with the platinum plugs (cant really imagine waiting so long myself).

Like I said if no one beats me to it, I will quote chapter and verse tonight when I get home from work.

Welcome to the EP3 family.

 

Thanks I'd appreciate that..

 

I think you can go on honda.com and find a service schedule somewhere...might have to dig/register on their site to find it.

FWIW, my buddy has about 70k+ on his Si (he drives a lot every day for work) and has only changed his oil. Still original brake fluid, tranny fluid, etc.

 

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sorry but these are the best scans i could do, i hope i didn't make em too small...

 

thanks - very helpful!

 

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I love the car, its smooth and powerful for the everyday commute. Now the thing is I doubt I'll drop a dime into the car in regards of aftermarket because I bought another project car. So the only thing I am really concerned about is mainteance..

I have the Clutch MC squeak, gonna get that warrantied and fixed. But other than that there are no problems, I bought the car with about 16,500 miles on it and there are about 18,000 on it now..

I was wondering if anyone had the list of schedule mainteance items to take care of, I am pretty mechnically inclined as I've worked on B motors and all... Do you guys think buying a helms for the EP3 would be a good idea..

I just wanted the mileage and list of what mainteance items to take care of, just so I can be prepared..

thanks again
-Navin</TD></TR></TABLE>

(Only if it a new car, or still under factory warranty)
WHENEVER, I MEAN WHENEVER THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH YOUR CAR, ESP WHEN IT IS NEW, TAKE IT BACK TO THE DEALERSHIP. Your clutch, if it is a bad enough problem, make them order you a new one. If they say no, tell them to call their district Parts Manager (American Honda). If they order it, tell them to overnight the parts, Honda pays freight 100% of the time. Don't let the dealership dick you around what-so-ever

Shaughn Jackson
Lithia Honda of Pocatello
Parts Manager

 

My clutch MC squeak went away.
Based on used oil analysis, Mobil 1 0W-20 oil is a great match for the K20s.
A bit cheaper, and also a good oil, is Pennzoil's 5W-20.
I use the S2000 oil filter, which puts oil capacity at about 5.25 quarts.
My air filter was pretty dirty at 25,000 miles.
I get a touch of the 2nd to 3rd gear grind, but if I go through the gears while stationary a few times, it's pretty much gone.

Welcome to the cult, I mean club!

 

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I thought it was determined that there was a loss of oil pressure with the use of a larger oil filter on these engines?

 

You can buy the smaller HAMP oil filter that will raise oil pressure.

 

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Here's why I use a S2000 filter, assuming the smaller filter actually restricts flow compared to the larger:

The bearing clearances determine pressure. And a filter acts as a restriction until the bypass opens.
The smaller filter's media has less area, it can't flow oil, then the bypass opens.
The larger filter's media has more area (less pressure drop), it still flows oil, bypass opens later.
A good thing. More filtered oil is better than less filtered.

Pressure = Force/area

Volume is not in that equation, so size in itself doesn't have anything to do with it.
But the restriction of the smaller media area does.

So, I'll lose a little pressure, but gain filtered oil flow, gain oil capacity, gain oil cooling (larger filter cools more), and won't have to change the filter as often as the small filter.
Seems like a good trade off.