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Preventing rust on rear fenders in wheel well

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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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Default Preventing rust on rear fenders in wheel well

Just like the topic, I read on here just a little bit ago that removing the liners on the rear fenders of civics/hondas can help prevent the rust. I live in Ohio, the ultimate in freeze/thaw and salt use state...

I wonder if its true, because if it were true, wouldn't it be cheaper for honda to leave it off?

Anyways, should I remove these rubber liners around the inside of my rear fender lips? Kind of makes sense to me since I've been watching the ends of it come off on its own, I kept having to put it back on.

Aside from that, how many times would you suggest I use a self serve drive in cleaner's water pressure washer to spray the underside of my car?
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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the rear liners are the problem, honda tried to make the rear fender protect itself from the elements but what they forgot to think about what the fact that condensation can get in the little areas and if it sits there too long...taaa daaaa you have yourself a nice "honda rust spot". I took mine out first day i got my car
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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yeah take them rubber moldings off to keep the cancer away
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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thank you both, I kind of thought that for over a year, but thought... why would honda do that? I guess I forgot, if honda was thinking, the b16 would have been stock, an icebox would be the intake, the body would have full suspension support, the rear subframe would be straight across to support a rear sway bar on all models go free improvements and tuning lol
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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are there any of these rubber molding on the inside of the wheel wells. I already took the outsides off, just never checked inside the well.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 06:09 AM
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If you run your hand on the upper inside of the wheel well, you'll feel the rubber piece. Just pull it off and throw it away.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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its true the liner builds up condensation...over time u will rust out ur fenders....take that **** off now
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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Default Rear fender lip protection

When we bought my girls '99 EX sedan it had 63K and the rear fender lip protectors were seperating at the ends. I just did the same thing I did with my '98 Subaru Legacy L wagon taht came with the protectors. I took them off, cleaned the rear fenders lips inside and out with rubbing alchool. Then I cheaked the lips for any scratches nicks or rust. I only foun one spot near the rear of teh fender where a rock had chiped the paint. Everything under the protector was CLEAN of anything. I got some good 3M weatehr strip adhesive. I reinstated the protectors and put small wood working clamps on the ends to keep then air tight and sealed! The main purpose of the protectors is to stop stone chips on the rear fender lip. They dod a good job. The stock way of instaling them is cheap and that is how ther seperate from the factory and start leting mostuire and salt and debris in. I say clean and cheak the surface of the rear fender lips when the stock adhesive lets loose and reinstal them right!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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"how many times would you suggest I use a self serve drive in cleaner's water pressure washer to spray the underside of my car?" Raod salt is activated (starts becoming caustic) ABOVE 32 degrees. Sooooo, if tehre is road salt on your car and it is under 32 degrees and it is not in a garage you are fine. When teh temp gets above 32 for any amount of time I spray the under body with a pressure wand for $1.00 at the local car wash. No rust in a '93 Toyota Corolla wagon with 300K all it's years in the salt Northeast!!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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wow, that's impressive. i'm gonna start doing that. So you just spray the underbody and fenders, you don't wash the whole thing?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Default Underbody Vs. Outer skin washing in winter

I do RUN THE WAND QUICKLY OVER THE OUTSIDE OF THE CAR just to get the salt off. But I mainly focus on the under body that is where teh salt sits on bare or un painted metal and does damage. I give the outer skin a good coat of Newfinish acylic wax before the winter comes, and make sure all nicks and scratches are atleast primed!! The outer skin hols up pretty well if waxed, it's the under body that takes a beating!!! It is going to look like crap during the winter anyways why ice my doors shut!!
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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Are you talking about the lining that is DIRECTLY above the rear wheels? Could someone post a picture of the linings you guys are talking about? Thanks.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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No pic, but I'm gonna describe it, it is the rubbery black strip, that fits on the lip that is bent in towards the trunk, on the edge by the wheels.... the same spot people roll when they have too wide of tires and drop the car.
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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if you already have rust will removing these help the rust not to grow bigger, or will it worsen it?
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Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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yeah someone take a pic, or i will if no one does
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:06 AM
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If you already have rust there take them off imediately!! Treat the rust with Exend or Navel Gelly, then prime and paint. Rubb the lips down with achool and reinstall the strips after teh paint has dried.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:42 AM
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someone please post a pic, i'm so scared that my 92 hatch will start rusting....
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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My car is a 2000 Civic and I took off the lining in summer of 2003. I wash my car regularly and I remember that night, my friends told me to take it off cause of rust and whatnot will build up in there.

2 hours before I met up with them, I had just washed my car at home. When I took off the lining, I rubbed the inside with tissue and a huge handful of black colour dirt and whatnot came out. It was disgusting. There goes a 3 years of road debris build up.

Ever since that day, everytime I wash my car, I rub the inside with my hand until I feel bare metal - weather I wash the car at home or at the coin-op during winter time.

And as for how salt works, like someone mentioned earlier, it works when the salt water is in liquid form, meaning, abouve 0 C /32 F. When the salt on your car is all frozen, it won't do anything because there is no moisture on the car, only solid particals.

But I still wash my car once a week.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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Default Winter car washing

You are very right salt is only active above 32 degrees F. I just make sure I wash UP BEHIND THE PROTECTIVE STRIP ON BOTH MY CARS every time I was it at teh coin-op when it gets above 32 like today. Just came back from doing it on my lunch break!!

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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 09:52 AM
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yeah those little gay strips are the "honda satan"

rip them off and wash your car over there really good.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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do the 92-95 civic coupes have these?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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go look at your car, you can tell, look at the rounded lip around the wheel... the part of the metal right above the tire, cut in a curve... Everyone with me here?

On that edge, feel it, feel for rubber, that is black, it goes all the way along that edge.. that is what we are talking about, it takes a few lbs of force to pull it all off in one big peice, its oh... 2-3 feet long id say.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 10:15 AM
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i cant believe no ones got a picture, but im almost 95% sure i know what peice your are talking about.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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Yea, can someone take a picture of this???
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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