well it wasnt that cold out today so i went for a ride earlier and scarred the **** out of myself, im not sure if my tire was crazy cold, to much tire pressure or what, i cam out of my street and the tire started spinning like a mother, than the tire was skipping down the street

 

Most likely cold. Thats my guess, gotta watch out for that bro.

 

Too much throttle, cold tires, not enough traction. Next time, let your tires warm up a bit more.

 

ever seen anybody move side to side when travaling at a low speed? thats what that is for. warms them bad boys up.

 

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AFAIK, that does not warm up the tires enough to operating temperature. When you're just swerving, there aren't enough forces acting on the tire to make it heat up. Hard acceleration and deceleration heats the tire better than rolling side-to-side. When you're on the track, it's recommended to not go full lean on your first lap - take it easy, and gradually add more lean as you finish more laps.

 

um yeah no. he doesnt track it is his street bike. so yes it would heat his tires up

 

maybe it's just me, but it makes no sense.
i would imagine that hard acceleration and deceleration will warm up the tires quicker, but then i don't think its the best idea to accelerate hard when the tires are still cold. if you're swerving around at low speeds, the tires will probably warm up in the same amount of time, except maybe the outsides of the tire will warm up a bit quicker than usual since it makes more contact with the road.

 

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AFAIK, that does not warm up the tires enough to operating temperature. When you're just swerving, there aren't enough forces acting on the tire to make it heat up. Hard acceleration and deceleration heats the tire better than rolling side-to-side. When you're on the track, it's recommended to not go full lean on your first lap - take it easy, and gradually add more lean as you finish more laps.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is correct, there was an article somewhere that had actuall tests on how to warm up your tires, swerving side to side did nothing. I don't know where the article is though.

 

That article was a few years ago - said that even the GP bikes barely benefit from side to side and that a hrad accel then decel pattern a few times was far more effective.

 

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What my point was, is that if the side-to-side motion was actually more effective than hard acceleration and deceleration, then you would see people on the track doing it. Of course, the racers have tire-warmers, so they're not worried about warming them up; they're more worried about losing that heat.

What applies on the track applies on the street - take it easy for your first few turns, especially in the canyons where the road surface can be colder than regular city streets. Don't crank the bike into a full lean after warming it up, since you won't have the traction to do so.

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i would imagine that hard acceleration and deceleration will warm up the tires quicker, but then i don't think its the best idea to accelerate hard when the tires are still cold. if you're swerving around at low speeds, the tires will probably warm up in the same amount of time, except maybe the outsides of the tire will warm up a bit quicker than usual since it makes more contact with the road. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It's ok to accelerate and decelerate hard as long as you don't go past the traction limit of the tire - for example, doing a burnout is not beneficial. Braking so hard that you skid is not going to help, either. Swerving does not help as much, unless there are a lot of forces acting on the tire. Which is not a good idea if the tire is cold.

 

well maybe im just a dumbass but friction cause heat dosent it? so the more friction the more heat? If Im wrong some tell how to properly heat them bad boys

 

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Yes, more friction = more heat. But, you aren't loading up the tire enough to heat it up if you just swerve from side-to-side. Unless you do it for a few miles.

 

big burnout in my driveway works for me before a ride. i lean it over then turning out of my driveway