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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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Default Help me upgrade my brakes. Prelude?

This is one of those cases were i searched so much i just got lost, so many people said such distant opinions over all of the threads i have no idea who to belive.

So, im tired of my stock brakes, i want to go better, but stay OEM. I read about h22a prelude brakes, since they are a bit larger and the prelude is considerably heavier they were my first choice in order to see a true improvement. Im runing 15" wheels so fitment would be fine.

Now, to the question, what should i do, what would i need? How the hell do i deal with the fact that the prelude is 5 lug ?

Im lost
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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hey check out what i found https://honda-tech.com/zeroforum?id=4
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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if u want a cheap way just go with the brembo blanks.. and a set of axxis pads
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IC33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey check out what i found https://honda-tech.com/zeroforum?id=4</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey thats great, im sure the prelude people can tell me how to swap the breaks on to an EG.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blindstuff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is one of those cases were i searched so much i just got lost, so many people said such distant opinions over all of the threads i have no idea who to belive.

So, im tired of my stock brakes, i want to go better, but stay OEM. I read about h22a prelude brakes, since they are a bit larger and the prelude is considerably heavier they were my first choice in order to see a true improvement. Im runing 15" wheels so fitment would be fine.

Now, to the question, what should i do, what would i need? How the hell do i deal with the fact that the prelude is 5 lug ?

Im lost </TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm.... where does it say its for a eg ??
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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Default Re: Help me upgrade my brakes. Prelude? (Blindstuff)

as with any other brake swap, you will need the hub assembly, upgraded axels(recommended), rotors, calipers, pads, new wheels to accomodate the 5 lug upgrade, possible bigger booster(not sure)
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IC33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hmm.... where does it say its for a eg ??</TD></TR></TABLE>

His sig, and the fact that he posted this in the EG+ forum?
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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Default Re: Help me upgrade my brakes. Prelude? (IC33)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IC33 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hmm.... where does it say its for a eg ??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lets see, this is the EG forum , my signature does say Civic, not once, but twice, i guess that means i have a prelude
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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i guess i should give up then

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Silvabullet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u want a cheap way just go with the brembo blanks.. and a set of axxis pads</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i would do
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civictildeath &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">accomodate the 5 lug upgrade</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cant do that, i dont have the money for new wheels now.

Also i found that early model preludes are 4 lug but need to be redriled to 100 x 4.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=714582

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Also, my civic here came with 4 wheel disks, guessing the same as Si's in the US. Do they have 11" rotors? or only GSR´s?
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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i think he meant that they can be redrilled to that. and i believe the nsx was the one that had the 11" rotors?? could be wrong
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civictildeath &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think he meant that they can be redrilled to that. and i believe the nsx was the one that had the 11" rotors?? could be wrong</TD></TR></TABLE>

I understood the VTEC prelude had 11" rotors.

This seems rather complicated in order to just get something a bit better than teg brakes ? Anyone have any idea what to do about MC and proportioning valve?
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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Going to sleep bump.

I would really apreciate any and all help
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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Default Re: Help me upgrade my brakes. Prelude? (Blindstuff)

Honestly, just upgrade to the Integra brakes. The 4x14.3 setup is a waste of time and effort. I have one and it's no better than Teg brakes. You WON'T get anything extra out of those brakes on the streets.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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Default Re: Help me upgrade my brakes. Prelude? (Ricey McRicerton)

the ealy Prelude VTEC models had 4x114.3 brakes, which allow you to redrill safely a new 4x100 in between the stock lug holes, and the rotors can be picked up from Napa for 23 bucks a piece, plus they are hubcentric to you Teg/ABS knuckles, which you must use to be able to use the Prelude VTEC/ITR/CR-V/NSX/Legend/Accord wagon calipers, all of which will work with said rotors. Depending on the calipers and wheels, you may need to use a variety of wheel spacers also
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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Default Re: Help me upgrade my brakes. Prelude? (Emerika)

Thanx for the help everyone, i think im going to go with the GSR swap since it is far less costly and complicated, and acording to some on the streets i wont see much better results than with prelude brakes.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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your brakes are limited buy your tires, and since you said nothing about track driving, upgrading to a bigger brake would be a waste of money.

on the street you just need your brakes to be able to lock up. get some cheap rotors and decent pads and you will be set
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