I am currently "toying" with a nice 25K 00 B16a2

I'm up to cams decisions before i can continue buying/working on the rest..

What i want is to retain an almost stock low lobes to get fuel economy and normal idle, but need high power vtec lobes since i want to rev it to 9K
( balanced + surely CTR pistons , rest block should be stock )

So wich cams do you recommend based on experienced and not what you just read or think ...

Do the Skunk2 Stage 2 vtec cams have stupid low lobes?
still permit somewhat smooth idle?

What about todas? A ? B ?

maybe only skunk2 stage 1?

i ain't looking for 200WHP+ , but i'd like to close on 180whp
with the headwork and wideband/ecu tunning ..

Any other good options?
also, i can't afford to pay 600$USD+ for a pair of cams, so it will be in used form or on ebay to get good deals .. so no brand new JuN stuff for me

Is there any manufacturer that makes cams without too much aggressive low lobes? i don't really care if it slams a bit while vtec kicks in, i'm going to smooth it out with tunning neway if it's not confy for my ***

thanks all for your time,

 

what about some buddy club spec III+

 

100% skunk stage 3's The primarys are like stock but with a huge vtec.. I passed emmision with them once, just set the vtec xover high and they never even went into vtec..Dont be scared of them eithera s all the people here who say their not streetable havent run them

 

are you a daily driver? what's the rest of your setup?

wouldn't skunk2 stg 3's be a little agressive for a daily driver?

 

skunk 3 primary lobes are SMALL , smaller than the skunk stage 2's...vtec is bigger,so if you set vtec to say 5800 , your not hitting it daily unless you ripping on the car

 

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Were you talking to him or me? I put over 8000 miles on my car this summer and that was weekends only

 

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Were you talking to him or me? I put over 8000 miles on my car this summer and that was weekends only</TD></TR></TABLE>
naw, the guy who started this thread.

everyone here knows your story already tbone
edit: i believe it's in your sig too

 

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So hey Tbone, NO dis-respect what-so-ever, I have NOTHING but respect for you, but I was under the assumption that you need at least 13.1 to run these cams to get their maximum power. PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong, and I don't mean to pirate this thread, but the Skunk 3's are huge! Mild compression Tbone? Again, I think you're a god for us, no dis/second guessing intended.

Bump this thread!

 

ctr slugs in a b16 block is what compression?

 

Who says you need 13+ .. let me guess people on htec...

Heres how I based the question.. he asked about cams with baby primaries...simple answer skun3's are the smallest ever.
He want a cam with huge vtec though .. same answer skunk 3's
Now if he sets his vtec to 5800 he shouldnt see vtec at all if its a daily driver..
I just look at it from a cam perspective..

Btw I appreciate the nice words but I'm no different from anyone else here, I'v just tried alot of combos that others havent.

 

thanks all for nice answers ..


skunk 3 haha .i'm tempted

but i am questionning myself on the use of those cams on street,
even with setting the vtec at higher point ..

i wanted to use somethin near 5000..so i guess that 5500 wouldn't be a big compromise

then what about what is required to run those cams correctly?
in how do they differ from stage 2 in vtec lobes?
duration and + lift?

CTR pistons are not defenit for me, but if needed i'll go for it
( would prefer it to miling head +thinner gastket for sure )

i'll look around to get CR with B16a2 + CTR pistons or an aproximate

i don't have any experience with buddy club stuff, where is this company based?


Do you guys think it is worth for top end to get aftermaket cams VS oem Rs?
the price isn't that different ..since R cams usually run for 250-325$USD

 

looks like 11.6 is the CR i should get with CTR pistons in the B16a block

 

i wonder the same thing, i want to have a nice street car thats fun at the track too, ive got a b16, and iam thinking about the skunk2 stage 1's but i want more power, and i dont care if i have to let it warm up, and i dont care if i get bad gas mileage, so should i step up to the stage 2's?? keep in mind when i put these cams in my b16 the heads gonna be ported polished, iam gonna get a valve job, and ill have full bolt ons, and some tuning stuff..

 

well personally , i'd like better a copmlete 2 stage engine ..

economical mode under 5K and no vtec of course
and power mode from 5k to 9k for fun time and lapping

if the skunk2 stage 3 cams are as that, i might really consider them!

 

I dont think you need something as large as a skunk 3 , but with the requirements you gave those cams will give you the affect your looking for.

 

Skunk 2 stage 3

 

tbone is correct. you do not need the crazy compression people talk about on H-T to run these cams.

 

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thats what iam wondering, because ive mentioned getting skunk 2 stage 2's and everyone says..."oh your gonna have to up your compression" so this is not true?

if its not then thats awesome, you can just slap these cams in with valvetrain and a little headwork with bolt ons and tuneing and see some numbers maybe in the 180's? or higher? can anyone clarify this?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tbone &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who says you need 13+ .. let me guess people on htec...

Heres how I based the question.. he asked about cams with baby primaries...simple answer skun3's are the smallest ever.
He want a cam with huge vtec though .. same answer skunk 3's
Now if he sets his vtec to 5800 he shouldnt see vtec at all if its a daily driver..
I just look at it from a cam perspective..

Btw I appreciate the nice words but I'm no different from anyone else here, I'v just tried alot of combos that others havent.</TD></TR></TABLE>

.......so modest.....

 

I was wondering if anyone knew where to find a good set up skunk cams, decent price, but not the cheapest

 

we got BLOX stage 2's on sale right now which are basically skunk stage 2's. pm for pricing.

 

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jhpusa.com has the skunk 2 stage 2's right now for 519$ shipped free shipping, thats a good deal to me

can anyone answer this post for me? its bugging me

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thats what iam wondering, because ive mentioned getting skunk 2 stage 2's and everyone says..."oh your gonna have to up your compression" so this is not true?

if its not then thats awesome, you can just slap these cams in with valvetrain and a little headwork with bolt ons and tuneing and see some numbers maybe in the 180's? or higher? can anyone clarify this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks guys

 

from http://www.importreview.com site, there is a few dyno from people that uses skunk2 stage 2 cams, and most do not list either high comp: pistons or head milling

some get good results, other are just so so if you ask me ( seeing from what they've put in the engine as $$$ and time )

i ain't sure if this site is a good palce to compare dynos, or if everything there is biased, but from all the 1.8 liter dynos, u can get pretty good info on torque curves VS mods VS tunning with different parts
+ in the performance section there is a few nice tests on cams!

so stage 3 would be hot?
anyone here as even used those?
any dyno available with a prepared engine ( not a fully build bottom and 14.1CR please )

 

ok , i determined that what i really need is a cam that retains stock on the low lobes,
and has good duration + high lift for high rpm on the vtec lobes

i don't really care if i loose some on the low rpm since it should be used for moving around and cruising ... so i wish to tune the vtec engine as it was designed to

economy and power mode


so since i don't see any specs at all on the low lobes from any manufacturer, i'll have to rely on you guys for this...

wich cams offer a " similar to stock " low primarys, and high rpm power vtec lobes?

thanks again!