just wondering if it is possible to get 200whp with a non vtec ls.

 

if it is, it's not going to be anything even close to streetable.

 

Im not sure about 1.8ls but Teg92 Did 200whp B20 on a mustang Dyno pump gas..

 

good luck .... i've been trying to attain that goal for a year , with tons of part changes and tunning and the best i have gotten out of an all motor ls is my current setup @ 167.4whp/ 142.3 trq,

also interested to see if anyone has hit 200 and what the setup is ....

ps. for a sub 170 hp ls in a hatch ... i run **** so i think 200 would be scary ....lol

 

what have you tried? i've seen 165 whp with p30's, dc header and only 403's. and other bolt ons.

 

i have never heard of someone attaining that in a ALL motor ls. but good luck. keeps us posted

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ljoe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if it is, it's not going to be anything even close to streetable.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no

People please, if you have no clue don't post on the subject.

Yes it has been done, several times, and it was streetable.

 

there is a kid on here with a 180 whp daily driver so im sure 200 is possible

 

My car has made 198/148 with my old b20 set up and the car ran a 12.4@107 in a street driven car thats in my sig. With a new b20 set up it made 195/138 on a dyno jet and it ran 12.12@111 in the same car. I'm not sure why it didnt make more on the dyno maybe the dyno was not set up right or was just a tight dyno, but both motors where in the same car but not on the same dyno, but with nothing changed to the car it ran 4mph faster with the new motor so I'm not sure about the dyno numbers and could really careless as long as it runs strong.

 

you need to stroke that **** and run it on straight race gas...i guess it would be attainable if you deckplated it. but that would be worthless... for someone to deny vtec so much.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JUMPTHELIGHT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you need to stroke that **** and run it on straight race gas...i guess it would be attainable if you deckplated it. but that would be worthless... for someone to deny vtec so much.</TD></TR></TABLE>Well my car runs with some of the best 2.0 vtec cars in my class so you can not deny the fact that you can build a nonvtec car to run with a vtec car. The olny difference that I see is that it idles rough but other then that it seems to run right with the vtec cars.

 

Well said StyleTeg.

I made 196whp on a mustang dyno with my nonvtec setup. (mustangs read 10-15% lower than dynojets for a reference)... 200whp is easily attainable with the proper modifications.

read all about my setup here ....

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=595909

 

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What are you smoking man? What are you basing these comments on???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teg92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well said StyleTeg.

I made 196whp on a mustang dyno with my nonvtec setup. (mustangs read 10-15% lower than dynojets for a reference)... 200whp is easily attainable with the proper modifications.

read all about my setup here ....

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=595909
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i have never heard of them being 10-15% lower. are you sure about that? and how do they compare to a dynopack?

 

the LS Non-vtec motor is so underrated. Its a fun motor to build up if you like that wild old school lopey cam feel. hehe.

200hp is possible with the right compression and cam. on a non-vtec setup, whether its a sohc or dohc, the motor is awaken when you use the right camshaft.


if anyone is interested in trying out one of our LS camshafts. let me know. We'll get you a good deal on a set. We just want more LS enthusiasts out there in the scene.
let's not forget the non-vtec.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teg92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well said StyleTeg.

I made 196whp on a mustang dyno with my nonvtec setup. (mustangs read 10-15% lower than dynojets for a reference)... 200whp is easily attainable with the proper modifications.

read all about my setup here ....

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=595909
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Good ****!

 

my stock ls with crower 404's i/h/e made 150whp, so yes i could see 200 being an easy goal. with some more compresion and flow i don't see why not. o yea **** some vtec!

 

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i have never heard of them being 10-15% lower. are you sure about that? and how do they compare to a dynopack?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes I'm sure. the internet is a very powerful tool. Search honda-tech, search the web. You'll find many articles on it.

and btw Dynapacks always read higher than dynojets.

 

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Yes I'm sure. the internet is a very powerful tool. Search honda-tech, search the web. You'll find many articles on it.

and btw Dynapacks always read higher than dynojets.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have that too that dynopacks read higher, but are more accurate do to the fact that they can be more effectively calibrated.

 

I hope to hit around 180's with a b20b with a near stock block (arp rod bolts). Its the head that will be set up for it, and the benefit of having 84mm bore, p&p 94 LS head, milled 30 thousandths, cometic head gasket, crower v/t package, skunk2 i/m, DC jdm 4-1 header, and many other bolt-ons. I still have 94 ls cams in it for right now, im still debating on 404's or the 403's. Im just not wanting a nasty idle. This will be daily driven so i want to make sure its going to be reliable.

Ide say with a b20b/z it would be easy to hit the 200hp mark while staying non-vtec!

- for non-vtec'rs

 

it should not be hard at all to hit 200whp with a b20,with a b18 it ll just be very hard but not impossible,with my old b20z motor w/no name brand i/h/e and fpr set @43 i made 137whp/140lbs no tunning,w/tunning i should have seen at least 145whp, so i say if i did build it to produce around 200whp torque would be around 175lbs which is way more than any vtec car would even dream about making @200whp.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by erebunicrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what have you tried? i've seen 165 whp with p30's, dc header and only 403's. and other bolt ons.</TD></TR></TABLE>
update :

my new setup
b18b
pr3's ls shotpeened rods
arp rod bolts and head studs
stg 2 port and polish
crane valve springs and retainers
ferrera valves
crane 12's
str gears
stg 2 ported skunk 2 mani
comptech race header
apex-i n1 header back ,
ni crank pulley
j's racing intake
str fuel rail
itr injectors
kenji p06 ecu
safc 2 tuned with new setup
13.1 fuel ratio @ 50psi
walbro 255 pump
itr oil pump
jg throttle body 68mm
dyno'd @ coastal performance in tampa fl. on dyno jet @ 74 degrees ambiant air temp & 82% humidity

186 whp @ 7100 rpm's
149 trq @ 6800 rpm's

will post sheet when i can get it to a scanner
hense , it is very , very attainable to hit 200 whp on 1.8L ls ...

 

Damn not bad for the cams you have! I didnt think that the Crane 12's would produce that high! Im impressed!

 

the guy that tunes my car is really good , every time i change the setup he does an awesome job of getting the fullest potential out of the setup ...

check him out ... http://www.lhtperformance.com

 

real good numbers! highest i've seen on a stock block. is the head ,milled at all?