For the people running fuel cells in their cars or planning to in the future. What capacity? What brand? In cell pump/surgetank? Location in car?

Thanks

Victor Penner

 

For enduros you'll want a 22 gallon....

 

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some enduro rules have stipulations about how much gas you can actually put in, relative to the amount the stock tank was able to hold. And futher more some enduro rules say that after intial fill up you can only put in XX gallons into the tank

 

22 gallons. Holy Crap! Stock is 13 but I was thinking of going less than that. I am toying with the itr EP idea, so mainly 30 to 40 min. races. Hmmm?

Victor Penner

 

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I am interested as well. Also if anyone wants to post pics of how there fuel cell is installed that would be cool...

 

I'm of a mixed mind about installing a fuel cell in a modern car. Stock tanks are pretty damned safe and I think we under-engineer cell installations sometimes. If I didn't care about increased capacity - 22 gallons, yummy - I don't think I'd put a cell in the Golf. Just a thought.

K

EDIT - I see that you're talking about a P car. That might make more sense, putting in a SMALLER tank to save weight, but remember that in a minor (30g) impact, that 8 gallons of fuel will weigh more than 1600 pounds.

 

You know Kirk, I have been over and over this in my mind and I would rather not put one in. I agree about the stock tank (and location) but so many classes require one that I think it is time to make a proper choice. It will allow me to run SCCA, Conference and CACC here in Canada.

Maybe a container that has milk jugs in series that I can add/subtract from as needed...

Victor Penner

 

What do you think would be a prime location? Stock fuel tank? Make a box out of bar stock type material and mount it underneath the car? What about like an ATL "well-cell" I think they make a small one (6-8gallonish) and larger (12-15gallonish) that would fit nicely in the sparetire well as a start? IMO I woudn't do it unless it was required and even then I think I would explore my options into possibly other class', but this is a subject I think worth talking about.

Who is currently running one in an IT type car?

 

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out here on the west coast there are some AI CMC cars that run them and for the most part i see them in the stock location, (or are stock location). I think this is the easiest, safest way to go. No need to create afirewall, ones all ready there

 

The spare tire well on most modern cars is outside of the "survival cell" and therefore, by definition, in the "crush zone" of the tub. I wouldn't be comfortable with the well-cell option just for that reason.

IT rules tell you that it has to be within X inches of the stock location but that would seem to give one lots of latitude. On many cars - mine included - the stock tank is shaped to fit into an odd-size space so it's very unlikely that a cell could be added without cutting into the floor, breaching the OE firewall separation.

Regardless, it's a buttload of work and is NOT cheap, once all of the bits get purchased. That's not stopping me from thinking about it, though. That damned Amy sent me the sups for the Summit Pt. 12 hours this week...

K

 

Yes, I have seen a lot of cells in the tire well and it makes me nervous as well. There is a raging debate on the Production web site on wether you are allowed to cut through the floor on a unibody car. I believe it is semantics, but supposedly people have failed tech because of it.

Victor Penner