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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 03:22 PM
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im looking for a 220v outlet to fit the wire the 175 comes with but cant find it any suggestions? also any tips on wireing a outlet for the 175? i got a 2 wire 40 amp breaker comming out my electric panel going to my central a/c ,i tapped into a junction box used to connect the central a/c to the panel and i came out with some 8 gauge wire (only 2 power) i droped down to a 30 amp main lug box and then into a outlet box. i only have only 2 wires going to all of this i dont think this is right any help?im thinking i got to run a 3rd wire (ground) back to my main panels ground distribution block
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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u prolly need a 4 wire plug. most likely u have a black, red, white and green for ur welder. black =1 leg (120volt) red =1 leg (120 volt) white = neutral, green = ground. read the owners manual it should tell u what u need.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22 civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im looking for a 220v outlet to fit the wire the 175 comes with but cant find it any suggestions? also any tips on wireing a outlet for the 175? i got a 2 wire 40 amp breaker comming out my electric panel going to my central a/c ,i tapped into a junction box used to connect the central a/c to the panel and i came out with some 8 gauge wire (only 2 power) i droped down to a 30 amp main lug box and then into a outlet box. i only have only 2 wires going to all of this i dont think this is right any help?im thinking i got to run a 3rd wire (ground) back to my main panels ground distribution block</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're correct. You need a third wire. The only reason you'd need 4 wires is for a 3phase setup...and you're not going to have that in your house.

So...in your main breaker box, you will have "pulls" off breakers. Just like your dryer and stove are, with 2 wires comming direct from breakers, you do the same with the first 2 wires that you're taking out to your main lug box. These will come into your lug box, and one to each side (the 2 copper strips). Then you go back to the main box and run a wire from the ground strip to the ground strip in the lug box.

Now, the work going OUT of the lug box:
You will most likely have a 3 prong plug for the welding machine. 2 will be flat and next to each other like on a 110v plug. Both these get wires directly to the breaker in the lug box. The third prong on the plug will wire to the ground strip.

If you want a jack inline, just wire it accordingly...
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Engloid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You're correct. You need a third wire. The only reason you'd need 4 wires is for a 3phase setup...and you're not going to have that in your house.

So...in your main breaker box, you will have "pulls" off breakers. Just like your dryer and stove are, with 2 wires comming direct from breakers, you do the same with the first 2 wires that you're taking out to your main lug box. These will come into your lug box, and one to each side (the 2 copper strips). Then you go back to the main box and run a wire from the ground strip to the ground strip in the lug box.

Now, the work going OUT of the lug box:
You will most likely have a 3 prong plug for the welding machine. 2 will be flat and next to each other like on a 110v plug. Both these get wires directly to the breaker in the lug box. The third prong on the plug will wire to the ground strip.

If you want a jack inline, just wire it accordingly...</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i thought thanx u very much sir...........on a nother note i thought 220 did not use a neutral wire unless the lug box was being used for a 220 and a 110 line out the same box
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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ovens and dryers use 220V w/neutral.
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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those are only 30 amp breakers style plugs the 175 has a 50 amp breaker style plug
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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Bump for a relative question.
I have the same welder at my shop. Unfortunately the only 220v outlet is at the front of the shop and I do my fab work in the back. So basically I get tired of running back and forth to use the welder......its a real time killer.
Anyway. I would like to construct a 50' extension cord for the welder, again the same Miller 175 220v unit. In the owners manual it recommends the awg for a specific length, so I think Im ok there (actually, recommend some for me please). My problem is that I can not find the male/female outlets in a 3 prong design, the same type of outlet the welder plugs into.
Any suggestions?
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 04:52 AM
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I did some electrical work for my uncles bakery.
He has a 220v 90 amp divider that we made a 50 ft exten cord for.

First thing is it wasnt cheap.. I think it was about $250! It would be cheaper to wire another outlet

But if you want to make the cord then basicallly any electric supply house will have 6awg wire in a nice plastic casing and they should have the 3 prong twist and lock together ends!

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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ok this is what i did and it works fine i droped into a 30 amp lug box then from the lug box i went to home dumpo and bought a 6-50r (its a wall mounted outlet enclosed in a black box that accepts 6 gauge wire , and it is able to handle 50 amps )pretty much a 50 amp outlet and i wired out of my lug box with some 10-3 extension cord wire that i also got at home dumpo 50 feet and it was a $buc-o-nine a foot .and at the other end of the cord i wired in this 6-50r wich accepts the 3 prong plug on the 175
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Cool thanks! That was what I was looking to do. The Home Depot near me doesnt have those 3 prong boxes, atleast I couldnt find them.
Might just be easier to run conduit down the wall and make it permanent.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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its a leviton cat.#5378 slim pickins in home depote but they where their
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