wireing a miller 175 220v
im looking for a 220v outlet to fit the wire the 175 comes with but cant find it any suggestions? also any tips on wireing a outlet for the 175? i got a 2 wire 40 amp breaker comming out my electric panel going to my central a/c ,i tapped into a junction box used to connect the central a/c to the panel and i came out with some 8 gauge wire (only 2 power) i droped down to a 30 amp main lug box and then into a outlet box. i only have only 2 wires going to all of this i dont think this is right any help?im thinking i got to run a 3rd wire (ground) back to my main panels ground distribution block
u prolly need a 4 wire plug. most likely u have a black, red, white and green for ur welder. black =1 leg (120volt) red =1 leg (120 volt) white = neutral, green = ground. read the owners manual it should tell u what u need.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22 civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im looking for a 220v outlet to fit the wire the 175 comes with but cant find it any suggestions? also any tips on wireing a outlet for the 175? i got a 2 wire 40 amp breaker comming out my electric panel going to my central a/c ,i tapped into a junction box used to connect the central a/c to the panel and i came out with some 8 gauge wire (only 2 power) i droped down to a 30 amp main lug box and then into a outlet box. i only have only 2 wires going to all of this i dont think this is right any help?im thinking i got to run a 3rd wire (ground) back to my main panels ground distribution block</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're correct. You need a third wire. The only reason you'd need 4 wires is for a 3phase setup...and you're not going to have that in your house.
So...in your main breaker box, you will have "pulls" off breakers. Just like your dryer and stove are, with 2 wires comming direct from breakers, you do the same with the first 2 wires that you're taking out to your main lug box. These will come into your lug box, and one to each side (the 2 copper strips). Then you go back to the main box and run a wire from the ground strip to the ground strip in the lug box.
Now, the work going OUT of the lug box:
You will most likely have a 3 prong plug for the welding machine. 2 will be flat and next to each other like on a 110v plug. Both these get wires directly to the breaker in the lug box. The third prong on the plug will wire to the ground strip.
If you want a jack inline, just wire it accordingly...
You're correct. You need a third wire. The only reason you'd need 4 wires is for a 3phase setup...and you're not going to have that in your house.
So...in your main breaker box, you will have "pulls" off breakers. Just like your dryer and stove are, with 2 wires comming direct from breakers, you do the same with the first 2 wires that you're taking out to your main lug box. These will come into your lug box, and one to each side (the 2 copper strips). Then you go back to the main box and run a wire from the ground strip to the ground strip in the lug box.
Now, the work going OUT of the lug box:
You will most likely have a 3 prong plug for the welding machine. 2 will be flat and next to each other like on a 110v plug. Both these get wires directly to the breaker in the lug box. The third prong on the plug will wire to the ground strip.
If you want a jack inline, just wire it accordingly...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Engloid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You're correct. You need a third wire. The only reason you'd need 4 wires is for a 3phase setup...and you're not going to have that in your house.
So...in your main breaker box, you will have "pulls" off breakers. Just like your dryer and stove are, with 2 wires comming direct from breakers, you do the same with the first 2 wires that you're taking out to your main lug box. These will come into your lug box, and one to each side (the 2 copper strips). Then you go back to the main box and run a wire from the ground strip to the ground strip in the lug box.
Now, the work going OUT of the lug box:
You will most likely have a 3 prong plug for the welding machine. 2 will be flat and next to each other like on a 110v plug. Both these get wires directly to the breaker in the lug box. The third prong on the plug will wire to the ground strip.
If you want a jack inline, just wire it accordingly...</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what i thought thanx u very much sir...........on a nother note i thought 220 did not use a neutral wire unless the lug box was being used for a 220 and a 110 line out the same box
You're correct. You need a third wire. The only reason you'd need 4 wires is for a 3phase setup...and you're not going to have that in your house.
So...in your main breaker box, you will have "pulls" off breakers. Just like your dryer and stove are, with 2 wires comming direct from breakers, you do the same with the first 2 wires that you're taking out to your main lug box. These will come into your lug box, and one to each side (the 2 copper strips). Then you go back to the main box and run a wire from the ground strip to the ground strip in the lug box.
Now, the work going OUT of the lug box:
You will most likely have a 3 prong plug for the welding machine. 2 will be flat and next to each other like on a 110v plug. Both these get wires directly to the breaker in the lug box. The third prong on the plug will wire to the ground strip.
If you want a jack inline, just wire it accordingly...</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what i thought thanx u very much sir...........on a nother note i thought 220 did not use a neutral wire unless the lug box was being used for a 220 and a 110 line out the same box
Bump for a relative question.
I have the same welder at my shop. Unfortunately the only 220v outlet is at the front of the shop and I do my fab work in the back. So basically I get tired of running back and forth to use the welder......its a real time killer.
Anyway. I would like to construct a 50' extension cord for the welder, again the same Miller 175 220v unit. In the owners manual it recommends the awg for a specific length, so I think Im ok there (actually, recommend some for me please). My problem is that I can not find the male/female outlets in a 3 prong design, the same type of outlet the welder plugs into.
Any suggestions?
I have the same welder at my shop. Unfortunately the only 220v outlet is at the front of the shop and I do my fab work in the back. So basically I get tired of running back and forth to use the welder......its a real time killer.
Anyway. I would like to construct a 50' extension cord for the welder, again the same Miller 175 220v unit. In the owners manual it recommends the awg for a specific length, so I think Im ok there (actually, recommend some for me please). My problem is that I can not find the male/female outlets in a 3 prong design, the same type of outlet the welder plugs into.
Any suggestions?
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I did some electrical work for my uncles bakery.
He has a 220v 90 amp divider that we made a 50 ft exten cord for.
First thing is it wasnt cheap.. I think it was about $250! It would be cheaper to wire another outlet
But if you want to make the cord then basicallly any electric supply house will have 6awg wire in a nice plastic casing and they should have the 3 prong twist and lock together ends!
He has a 220v 90 amp divider that we made a 50 ft exten cord for.
First thing is it wasnt cheap.. I think it was about $250! It would be cheaper to wire another outlet
But if you want to make the cord then basicallly any electric supply house will have 6awg wire in a nice plastic casing and they should have the 3 prong twist and lock together ends!
ok this is what i did and it works fine i droped into a 30 amp lug box then from the lug box i went to home dumpo and bought a 6-50r (its a wall mounted outlet enclosed in a black box that accepts 6 gauge wire , and it is able to handle 50 amps )pretty much a 50 amp outlet and i wired out of my lug box with some 10-3 extension cord wire that i also got at home dumpo 50 feet and it was a $buc-o-nine a foot .and at the other end of the cord i wired in this 6-50r wich accepts the 3 prong plug on the 175
Cool thanks! That was what I was looking to do. The Home Depot near me doesnt have those 3 prong boxes, atleast I couldnt find them.
Might just be easier to run conduit down the wall and make it permanent.
Might just be easier to run conduit down the wall and make it permanent.
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