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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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Default Battle @ 10,000 rpm (I lost!!!!) Major Carnage

I always see posts about Eagle Rods handling all kinds of distress. I had about 3,000 miles on my fully built and sleeved b16. Compression ratio was 12.5:1, SMS Header, CP Pistons (HPC Coated). Hondata s200 etc. I was at the track and on my third run I hit was sitting at the rev limiter (9900 rpm) at the top of third gear when I heard a clunk. I went thru the lights as my motor died and all types of fluids covered my windshield and my car. The car did not spin a bearing, the tops of the pistons and the plugs looked great. Most of the tuners and engine builders that have seen the wreckage think that the rod bolts broke. There seems to be two rod bolts that broke and one cap is missing altogether. The rings and the ring lands on all four pistons looked great. Earl and a few others have mentioned that the Eagle Rods were not the best choice for a motor seeing higher then 8000rpms.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:53 PM
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Default Re: Battle @ 10,000 rpm (I lost!!!!) Major Carnage (crazyitr)

damn......... damn .... thats crazy sorry for ur loss, i hope it doesnt happen to me since im also using ealge rods....
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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Hey at least the main bearings don't look to bad, just reuse them and save some money , anyways that really does suck but what are the eagle rods advertised to go up to, I never really looked into them. Hopefully you can get a new engine back together.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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that sucks. hope you get a new motor soon.

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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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Got a ls/vtec coming together with crower rods, cp pistons, and a custom turbo kit. At least something good came out of it.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1044846
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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omg
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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Default Re: Battle @ 10,000 rpm (crazyitr)

I have have to agree that it was probably the rod bolts. The upgraded 3/8" rod bolts would have been a better choice for your 10k revs. Any dynos of the motor before this? Sorry for your loss.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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Unfortunately the upgrades were not available and I jumped on the Eagle Rods are Indestructible bandwagon.
The motor made 192 whp, 125 ft-lb torque on a Mustang Dyno with 22 degrees of timing (ignition problems). I was able to run 32 degrees of advance at the track until the motor grenaded. So there was a lot more power available.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 12:00 AM
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sorry
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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what was the point of taking your engine to 10grand again?
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 01:46 AM
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bad for you
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 01:58 AM
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damn!
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 02:15 AM
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what a damn mess, sucks to hear
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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I was on the same bandwagon, and so far i still am but maybe im just lucky. It so shitty to hear that. That was a b16 to correct?? So much less side loading than and ls/vtec. Starting to scare me now gotta go. lol
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 06:27 AM
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was everything balanced? those kinds of revs require extremely good balancing
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 08:00 AM
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were you even making power after 8500rpm's? im curious to see some dyno charts. thats alot of timing.. sorry to see your loss.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Default Re: Battle @ 10,000 rpm (sumyungguy)

Motor made power to 9500 rpm. Jun 3's.
10,000 rpm?
Why go there?
If you haven't been there that's why your asking.
Ever heard a HOnda motor at 10,000?
Absolutetly incredible, better than a ferrari at redline.
I'll post a vid soon.
Hear it and decide for yourself.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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That is the sickest set of eagle rods I have seen.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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Default Re: Battle @ 10,000 rpm (I lost!!!!) Major Carnage (crazyitr)

who installed your rods, and what trq specs were they put to?
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Battle @ 10,000 rpm (Rob @ K-Series.com)

A well-know and respected engine builder in HOuston.
They were torqued to Eagle's specs. 28-29 ft-lbs. (My memory)
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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kid you crazy. but i hope you get a new motor!!
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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i wanna see the video of this thing hitting 10,000rpm
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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DAMN that motor got fucked up! Yeah most rod manufacturers never meant for their rods to go to 10,000 rpm! Were you even making power to 10K?
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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god damn...thats **** looks like it just got back from iraq
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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Default Re: Battle @ 10,000 rpm (hybrid_vtec)

If your gonna procedd into the 10,000 rpm range you definitly need to invest into more expensive rods. Your basic eagle , crower, potter rods arnt going to cut it. Corilla rods, Con rods by Farndon Engineering are gonna be what you need.
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