Real Coilover for '97 Lude?
..the only available true coilovers are the Teins and Tanabes. I just spent a few minutes surfing and no other companys have a true coilover system available. So, if you want to go that direction, your choice has been made for you! Either the Teins of the Sustec pros [height and dampening], or the streets [height only], but if you compare the two, in terms of what you get for what you pay, the Teins are more of a bragain, and adjusting forks come included, sometimes other systems require these to be purchased seperatly.
I have had my Tein HA's for ~2 years, and they are the best thing I have ever done to my car, period! Also, taking into consideration that prices/exchange rates just fell, you have no reason not to get them. If you live in a snowy climate, anti-seeze the threads at install, clean and rinse them off once a month, and have you car properly cornerweighted!
Any other questions, email me.
[Modified by bb6h22a, 11:23 AM 1/3/2002]
I have had my Tein HA's for ~2 years, and they are the best thing I have ever done to my car, period! Also, taking into consideration that prices/exchange rates just fell, you have no reason not to get them. If you live in a snowy climate, anti-seeze the threads at install, clean and rinse them off once a month, and have you car properly cornerweighted!
Any other questions, email me.
[Modified by bb6h22a, 11:23 AM 1/3/2002]
Aragosta also makes full coilovers for 5G ludes, but those are hard to find outside of the east. Between Tein HA and Tanabe Pro SS, Tein's offer a much better value, but if you live in very cold weather areas or near an ocean or something, be sure to spray the Tein's with anti-seize. I just checked Neuspeed's site and they don't seem to offer any coilovers for ludes and I don't think H&R does either...even if they did, they don't offer adjustable damping on their setups, which is a nice feature. If you can find the Aragosta's, those are nice! I've seen some used ones go for around $900. Search in classifieds or ebay. HTH.
Oh, and as for Tanabe's suspension rep, they've gotten somewhat poor reviews in Japan and mostly on their Pro-Street setup (non-adjustable damping) which is bone-jarring stiff. However, from everyone I've spoken to that has the Pro-SS setup (adjsutable damping) in the US, they like them a lot and say it's a very comfortable ride. A friend of mine is planning on getting the Pro-SS for her GSR soon so I'll know how they ride and handle from personal experience then.
[Modified by bhcvc, 7:34 PM 1/3/2002]
Oh, and as for Tanabe's suspension rep, they've gotten somewhat poor reviews in Japan and mostly on their Pro-Street setup (non-adjustable damping) which is bone-jarring stiff. However, from everyone I've spoken to that has the Pro-SS setup (adjsutable damping) in the US, they like them a lot and say it's a very comfortable ride. A friend of mine is planning on getting the Pro-SS for her GSR soon so I'll know how they ride and handle from personal experience then.
[Modified by bhcvc, 7:34 PM 1/3/2002]
i have the new tein superstreet damper/coilovers.a toned down version of the HA. more for daily driving and weekend autox.950$ .
other companies that offer are tanabe and progress.tein has the best prices tho.
other companies that offer are tanabe and progress.tein has the best prices tho.
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Progress makes a competition coilover setup for Preludes. this is what i had thought about putting on both my Prelude and my CRX. I thik i sell the Prelude applications for about $1260 shipped outside PA.
Tein was my first choice at first, I was just wandering if there's any other competitors I should consider. I guess not
but anyways do you guys know where to buy Teins Coilover with decent price?
Thanks a lot for all the replies
but anyways do you guys know where to buy Teins Coilover with decent price? Thanks a lot for all the replies
I thik i sell the Prelude applications for about $1260 shipped outside PA.
I don't really see anything on their site mentioning it.
http://www.progressauto.com
but they do mention that they are rebuildable to change the valving on different track conditions.
http://www.progressauto.com
but they do mention that they are rebuildable to change the valving on different track conditions.
I need adjustable dampening for all the nitrous I plan on running.
The lack of available coil-over options for the Prelude is very frustrating. It'd also be nice if something was available with semi-sane spring rates. I wish DMS had something for us.
I need adjustable dampening for all the nitrous I plan on running.
Am I missing something?
Am I missing something?
Progress has a 5th gen coilover listed on their site, but had no plans to actually make it last time I checked. The problems with the Tein HA's are that they're steel and they have to be sent to Japan to be revalved. If you don't WD-40 the threads, they can rust.
In addition to the Tanabe and Teins, Toda makes a full coilover for the prelude but it ain't cheap. They are aluminum so you don't havce the rusting problem but they also have to be sent to Japan for revalving. Also, the spring rates are a little soft, IMO 8kg/mm front and 4kg/mm rear. You can order custom valving, but with the spring rates what they are, I don't see the point. They're called TODA FIGHTEX. Their distributer is AKH Trading http://www.akhtrading.com (I think). Around ~$2k I think.
There's no real perfect solution for full coilovers for the Prelude. I guess no one thinks they can make money by having one. I suggest trying Koni's pseudo full coilover kit and see if you can get the shocks revalved.
Bilstein is coming out with (or has?) a full coilover, but I doubt very much they'll include the prelude, no one else does.
In addition to the Tanabe and Teins, Toda makes a full coilover for the prelude but it ain't cheap. They are aluminum so you don't havce the rusting problem but they also have to be sent to Japan for revalving. Also, the spring rates are a little soft, IMO 8kg/mm front and 4kg/mm rear. You can order custom valving, but with the spring rates what they are, I don't see the point. They're called TODA FIGHTEX. Their distributer is AKH Trading http://www.akhtrading.com (I think). Around ~$2k I think.
There's no real perfect solution for full coilovers for the Prelude. I guess no one thinks they can make money by having one. I suggest trying Koni's pseudo full coilover kit and see if you can get the shocks revalved.
Bilstein is coming out with (or has?) a full coilover, but I doubt very much they'll include the prelude, no one else does.
Yeah, Tein does have a US office now in socal and they can service their dampers there now, which is a big plus. Steppin's right about the Tein HA's tho...just make sure you use some sort of anti-seize or WD-40 or something to keep it from rusting...but that's only a real prob if you live in cold and/or salty areas. I forgot about the Toda Fightex coilovers...they look really nice...but pricey. They're $1920 for the FS (Fine Sport) model (the only one available for ludes). The site is http://www.todaracing.com and I think Steppin's link works too. I don't think the FS coilovers weren't meant for any heavy track duty, hence the fairly soft spring rates. You can always order custom Eibach ERS springs from Ground Control for $55/each (way cheaper than JIC, kg/mm, A'pex-i, Fightex, Tein, and Zeal coilover springs) to whatever length, ID, and spring rate you want and have Toda custom valve the dampers if you plan on using it for the track.
Oh, also, check out http://www.jic-magic.com as JIC also has 3 applications for 5G ludes...the SF1, FLT-2, FLT-A2. The FLT-A2 has adjustable rebound, adjustable height, and adjustable shock body length (a feature that one of the other brands have)...and the FLT-2 I think has the adjustable height and shock body length, but no adjustable damping. The prices are $1450(SF1), $1700(FLT-2), and $1850(FLT-A2). They're made of chromoly, so you shouldn't have probs with rust (at least not for a really long time). I asked the JIC-US distributor a ton of Q's about them cuz my gf is looking for coilovers for her lude. They're not out yet tho...I didn't get a date from him, so email him to get a date on when they'll arrive. He said they also have custom spring rates from 4kg/mm 24kg/mm and can service the dampers locally (socal). He also said that you can purchase just a single coilover unit in case only one is damaged (important to me at least cuz things happen at the track!). HTH.
Oh, just checked toda's website...it says higher spring rates can be ordered. If you have the money, I'd go with either the Toda for the aluminum construction (virtually rust proof and very light!) or the JIC FLT-A2's for the adjustable damping and adjustable shock length (maintains max shock travel (strike))...plus chromoly's pretty rust proof too...unless you live in the worst of climates.
Oh, just checked toda's website...it says higher spring rates can be ordered. If you have the money, I'd go with either the Toda for the aluminum construction (virtually rust proof and very light!) or the JIC FLT-A2's for the adjustable damping and adjustable shock length (maintains max shock travel (strike))...plus chromoly's pretty rust proof too...unless you live in the worst of climates.
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