what needs to be done to fit a d16y8 in a 97 civic hb dx
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what needs to be done to fit a d16y8 in a 97 civic hb dx
I have been searching all over the web i havent found anything maybe i suck please if anyone has any info i would greatly appreciate it...
i found a 97 ex engine with 38,000 miles for 400$
thanx...
i found a 97 ex engine with 38,000 miles for 400$
thanx...
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Re: (vespaboy)
You'd have to get the ecu for this engine and run some extra wires for the vtec stuff. There is a lot of info on this site, use the search in the upper right corner of this page to find info. It has been covered lots of times 
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Re: (CycloneBlue_1.6EL)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CycloneBlue_1.6EL »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You'd have to get the ecu for this engine and run some extra wires for the vtec stuff. There is a lot of info on this site, use the search in the upper right corner of this page to find info. It has been covered lots of times </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, besides swapping in another motor like the one you have, this is about one of the easiest swaps you can do. You can use your stock wiring harness, but just extend some wires and add a few more, like Cyclone said. Other than that and getting the ecu for the motor, everything else should be cake.
-Shane
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah, besides swapping in another motor like the one you have, this is about one of the easiest swaps you can do. You can use your stock wiring harness, but just extend some wires and add a few more, like Cyclone said. Other than that and getting the ecu for the motor, everything else should be cake.
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Re: (lone)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lone »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take out your old motor and put in the new one. everything should be plug and play if you get the d16y8 wire harness</TD></TR></TABLE>
Just the engine wire harness correct? there should be no repinning or anything I believe. just unplug your ecu and plug in the new one. I think all hondas come wired for vtec allready.
Just the engine wire harness correct? there should be no repinning or anything I believe. just unplug your ecu and plug in the new one. I think all hondas come wired for vtec allready.
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Re: (97LxCivicVtec)
thank you all for the replies I thought I was going to have to add wiring for the injector ,I will be using a tach rpm switch to control the V Tec... 
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Re: (vespaboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vespaboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so drop it in ,plug in the harness wire a rpm switch to the V tec and thats it?
is it really that easy...</TD></TR></TABLE>
What? Forget this "rpm switch" crap. Listen up:
1). Get D16Y8 engine and tranny
2). Get D16Y8 wire harness
3). Remove old engine
4). Transfer mounts, if needed, and any missing sensors from DX to Y8 block
5). Put Y8 harness on Y8
6). Lower Y8 engine and tranny assembly into engine bay of your car
7). Bolt it up, put the axles in, plug the harness in
8). Run the two wires for the Vtec solenoid from the shock tower into the cabin ECU plugs
9). Swap the ECU for the Y8 ECU
10). Turn the key and be done
is it really that easy...</TD></TR></TABLE>
What? Forget this "rpm switch" crap. Listen up:
1). Get D16Y8 engine and tranny
2). Get D16Y8 wire harness
3). Remove old engine
4). Transfer mounts, if needed, and any missing sensors from DX to Y8 block
5). Put Y8 harness on Y8
6). Lower Y8 engine and tranny assembly into engine bay of your car
7). Bolt it up, put the axles in, plug the harness in
8). Run the two wires for the Vtec solenoid from the shock tower into the cabin ECU plugs
9). Swap the ECU for the Y8 ECU
10). Turn the key and be done
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Re: (vespaboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vespaboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">by d16y8 harness do you mean the one on the engine or from the car?
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I mean the harness that belongs with the engine that you plan to drop in.
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I mean the harness that belongs with the engine that you plan to drop in.
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Re: (Hybrid93Eg)
thank you i will be doing this swap in the next few days and this info has helped...
so u think the rpm switch is a bad idea?i thought it was cool because I can control the v tec...
so u think the rpm switch is a bad idea?i thought it was cool because I can control the v tec...
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Re: (vespaboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vespaboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought it was cool because I can control the v tec...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry its not cool.
Sorry its not cool.
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Re: (vespaboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vespaboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thank you i will be doing this swap in the next few days and this info has helped...
so u think the rpm switch is a bad idea?i thought it was cool because I can control the v tec...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think its highly retarded. Lemme guess, you thought it would be cool to switch the Vtec on at 3,000rpms because the sooner you can get "on the cam" the sooner you can smoke some fools.... Right?
so u think the rpm switch is a bad idea?i thought it was cool because I can control the v tec...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think its highly retarded. Lemme guess, you thought it would be cool to switch the Vtec on at 3,000rpms because the sooner you can get "on the cam" the sooner you can smoke some fools.... Right?
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Re: (Hybrid93Eg)
3,000 rpm no i,m thinking maybe 5,500 ...
So a v tec controller is useless is what u are saying?
can you explain why controling the v tec is retared rather than just stating it...
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So a v tec controller is useless is what u are saying?
can you explain why controling the v tec is retared rather than just stating it...
thanx...
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Re: (vespaboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vespaboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3,000 rpm no i,m thinking maybe 5,500 ...
So a v tec controller is useless is what u are saying?
can you explain why controling the v tec is retared rather than just stating it...
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Simple. Listen up:
The ECU has fuel maps, one for the high cam, one for the low cam. The same for the ignition maps. But you "forcing" the Vtec to engage sooner or later will not switch the ECU over to the correct map that it needs in order to run the engine correctly "on the cam". The CORRECT thing to do is to chip the ecu with the settings you want. If you wanted to do it with a Vtec controller, at least you could add/remove fuel as needed for the changeover. Using a switch will not allow any fuel changes. Plain, simple, retarded.
So a v tec controller is useless is what u are saying?
can you explain why controling the v tec is retared rather than just stating it...
thanx...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Simple. Listen up:
The ECU has fuel maps, one for the high cam, one for the low cam. The same for the ignition maps. But you "forcing" the Vtec to engage sooner or later will not switch the ECU over to the correct map that it needs in order to run the engine correctly "on the cam". The CORRECT thing to do is to chip the ecu with the settings you want. If you wanted to do it with a Vtec controller, at least you could add/remove fuel as needed for the changeover. Using a switch will not allow any fuel changes. Plain, simple, retarded.
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Re: (97LxCivicVtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97LxCivicVtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just plug and play.......97 4dr with 2000 ex d16Y8......GSR ecu....lots of other stuff</TD></TR></TABLE>
Definitely NOT a GSR ecu. The fuel maps are completely different and the GSR has secondaries, which also affects the way the car runs. Having that ecu in my car for the first year b4 I got my p30 was bad enough, let alone on a single cam.
-Shane
Definitely NOT a GSR ecu. The fuel maps are completely different and the GSR has secondaries, which also affects the way the car runs. Having that ecu in my car for the first year b4 I got my p30 was bad enough, let alone on a single cam.
-Shane
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Re: (vespaboy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vespaboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">makes sence thank you for the info so i should use a afc with v tech controller to get any results...
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No, that would also not make any sense. Why not just use a VAFC, seen as how it does exactly what the SAFC does plus it controls vtec? Also, please keep in mind that you will STILL need to wire Vtec from the shock tower into the cabin, to the ECU.
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No, that would also not make any sense. Why not just use a VAFC, seen as how it does exactly what the SAFC does plus it controls vtec? Also, please keep in mind that you will STILL need to wire Vtec from the shock tower into the cabin, to the ECU.
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Re: (nighttrain33)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nighttrain33 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Definitely NOT a GSR ecu. The fuel maps are completely different and the GSR has secondaries, which also affects the way the car runs. Having that ecu in my car for the first year b4 I got my p30 was bad enough, let alone on a single cam.
-Shane</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not true. The fact that the secondaries are there means nothing for "how the car runs". If it doesn't have any secondaries (like a B16) then it will simply "ignore" it. Its not going to run any differently and has no seperate maps for them.
Definitely NOT a GSR ecu. The fuel maps are completely different and the GSR has secondaries, which also affects the way the car runs. Having that ecu in my car for the first year b4 I got my p30 was bad enough, let alone on a single cam.
-Shane</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not true. The fact that the secondaries are there means nothing for "how the car runs". If it doesn't have any secondaries (like a B16) then it will simply "ignore" it. Its not going to run any differently and has no seperate maps for them.