I just posted my install in the Integra section.

Figured more of you guys would be interested in seeing it, if you haven't already.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1072719

Even after the 1" front sway bar installed, the car still likes to oversteer, which I am real happy about, as it suits my driving style.

 

hmm... i thought it was just my civic... i have snap oversteer.. so far everyone who's driven my civic in autocross has spun out.. well.. almost everyone.. a nationals veteren got the car slightly past 90 degrees, then recovered after wagging the backside 6 times..

http://www.pbase.com/syclone/image/21128983

 

It looks pretty good! Do you have a website we can look at? Whats the retail price?

 

I have my own website that's in development....

http://www.motorsportmasters.com

Suspension Techniques website lacks information and has almost zero product info on it. I just got work from my warehouse that the Suspension Techniques products are on sale for December, and can get good prices for springs and sway bars.

If the pricing affects this kit, I could sell em for $290 plus shipping. That's the price I paid from the warehouse before the sale! MSRP is $440.

 

How is this kit different/better than the other kits out there (i.e. comptec, a-spec)? What are the specs and what applications are available?

 

I believe the difference is it has non adjustable bar, compared to adjustable on comptech.

I also fail to see the benefit on the adjustable tie bar. To me, it looks like you are reducing rigidity. ALthough I doubt it makes any difference.

 

They make this competition kit for the following applicaitons (7/8" swaybar):

94-00 Acura Integra (exc. Type “R”)
97-98 Acura Integra Type “R”
2000 Acura Integra Type “R”
96-00 Honda Civic - all
92-95 Honda Civic - all (with stock lower control arms)


If you look at the Comptech kit, it looks really close to the same configuration, except that the lower tie bar on the Comptech kit is solid, where the SpeedTech is adjustable. You can also tighten the tiebar on the SpeedTech kit to preload it as needed, or if desired. I don't know how the Comptech tiebar mounts, but the SpeedTech has spacer blocks with it so you get a flush mounting surface for all attachment bolts.

Comptech kit:


I'm unfamilar with a-spec.

 

Hmm.....

ITR fitment. The swaybar in their kit is the same size as stock though

 

7/8" ~ 22mm

I'm not sure about the comptech mounting either but the a-spec also mounts with spacers and such. The a-spec uses the stock ITR bar (22mm) or they have a hollow bar kit too ($$$).

A-Spec kit:


The SpeedTech looks nice. Not sure how the adjustable tie bar will help, but if it does it's always nice to have adjustability. Let us know when you find out about the pricing for the kits. Although this might be too much rear bar for my car (99 Civic DX on Eibach pro-kits/koni sports with no front sway)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm.....

ITR fitment. The swaybar in their kit is the same size as stock though </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, like I stated in my install, I didn't even have a rear sway bar to start with!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nonsense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The SpeedTech looks nice. Not sure how the adjustable tie bar will help, but if it does it's always nice to have adjustability. Let us know when you find out about the pricing for the kits. Although this might be too much rear bar for my car (99 Civic DX on Eibach pro-kits/koni sports with no front sway) </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think the bigger thing is the adjustable end links on the sway bars. For pricing this month I can sell kits for $290 plus shipping.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you look at the Comptech kit, it looks really close to the same configuration, except that the lower tie bar on the Comptech kit is solid, where the SpeedTech is adjustable. You can also tighten the tiebar on the SpeedTech kit to preload it as needed, or if desired. I don't know how the Comptech tiebar mounts, but the SpeedTech has spacer blocks with it so you get a flush mounting surface for all attachment bolts.

Comptech kit:


I'm unfamilar with a-spec.
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The comptech tie bar is a solid piece made from billet aluminum. I-beam design ensure lightweight and strength (I'm a civil engineer).

The mounting points is all flush as comptech made the spacers into account when designing the tie bar as one unit. Less parts to hagle and superior fit. Impeccable workmanship, and at a bargain price IMHO.

One thing I see that might be a disadvantage on the ASR design is the tie bar itself. By not making the connection on the bottom part (rasied bottom), they actually reducing the strength where the suspension point should have been reinforce. Draw a FBD on the bolt where the forces on lower A arm would acted.

I should make a disclaimer, although I don't work for comptech, I am sponsored by them. This doesn't mean I'm out there to bash other products and or glorified comptech product. I just call it the way I see it.

 

any of you guys who own a comptech or speedtech (or any) tie bar worried of it catching on something under the car when you go offroading?

 

You'd scrape the muffler first I think, but its not out of the question. I'll "test" it

 

The only issue I see with a solid aluminum part for a lower tie brace is how they mount up and allow of different width's between chassis's. That just cause I haven't seen one in person. I know Comptech makes great parts, and I know a guy who works there also.

I'm in no way trying to push one product over the other. I can also buy and resell Comptech parts. I'm just sharing my install and experience with the one I choose for my car.

Off road?? What's that?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any of you guys who own a comptech or speedtech (or any) tie bar worried of it catching on something under the car when you go offroading? </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it is not that low, really. Most of the front part of the car is actually lower, which would catch first. Like on the B series, race headers is usually low.

On K series, the oil pan is very low.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Marauder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only issue I see with a solid aluminum part for a lower tie brace is how they mount up and allow of different width's between chassis's. That just cause I haven't seen one in person. I know Comptech makes great parts, and I know a guy who works there also.

I'm in no way trying to push one product over the other. I can also buy and resell Comptech parts. I'm just sharing my install and experience with the one I choose for my car.

Off road?? What's that? </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats why there are different sized tie bars for different cars.

i have the comptech sway/tie combo on my civic hatch and it fits perfectly.

i also have everything set on its hardest settings . but i dont spin out. car turns nicely though

 

oh yeah, im looking for a good front sway bar, but i dont know a good place to order just the front. everywhere i look its sold in pairs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You'd scrape the muffler first I think, but its not out of the question. I'll "test" it </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'll be the first to verify this for an EG frame, as my car is sitting in the parking lot sans muffler. It was turned into a twisted, bent, semi- cracked **** after a certain off-road experience, and the suspension was untouched.

 

anyone know if any of the bars have an ef application (or what is required to fit it)? i don't see any listed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rsca_crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone know if any of the bars have an ef application (or what is required to fit it)? i don't see any listed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the uniq thing about the comptech and speedtech and A-spec is that they have sub frame reniforcment. From the Little i know about 88-91 civic/crx the sway bar mounts very differently, im pretty sure that Suspension Techniques has a sway bar for it just not with this sub frame reinforcement

 

some bars (stock, progress, others) mount to the subframe. others (st) have relocation brackets so they don't mount to the subframe. i'm looking for subframe mounted type w/ reinforcement (like those pictured in this thread) for an ef.

anyone know how different the dimensions on the subframe reinforcement plate(or bar) are between the eg and ef?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rsca_crx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some bars (stock, progress, others) mount to the subframe. others (st) have relocation brackets so they don't mount to the subframe. i'm looking for subframe mounted type w/ reinforcement (like those pictured in this thread) for an ef.

anyone know how different the dimensions on the subframe reinforcement plate(or bar) are between the eg and ef?</TD></TR></TABLE>

EF sway bars do not mount to the subframe like those do so you don't have to worry about it tearing out.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Andrie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The comptech tie bar is a solid piece made from billet aluminum. I-beam design ensure lightweight and strength (I'm a civil engineer).

The mounting points is all flush as comptech made the spacers into account when designing the tie bar as one unit. Less parts to hagle and superior fit. Impeccable workmanship, and at a bargain price IMHO.

One thing I see that might be a disadvantage on the ASR design is the tie bar itself. By not making the connection on the bottom part (rasied bottom), they actually reducing the strength where the suspension point should have been reinforce. Draw a FBD on the bolt where the forces on lower A arm would acted.

I should make a disclaimer, although I don't work for comptech, I am sponsored by them. This doesn't mean I'm out there to bash other products and or glorified comptech product. I just call it the way I see it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree 100%. I used to have one on my 00 civic si. I have sold it since then but was well worth the money for the quality of the product. I wouldn't buy anything else, and thats saying something from somebody who pretty much just buys cheap parts.

 

ryan-
what bar are you running? my progress bar mounts to the subframe. i know the ef st bar does not.

i like the design of the progress bar better (lighter, interferes less w/ my exhaust, and i already own it), but i'm interested in trying to reinforce the mounts for some extra insurance.