Well I was changing the axle on my other rex and I ran into this problem, the new axle and the old axle do not seem to want to seat in the trans all the way. Here are a few pics to explain what I'm talking about. The old axle and the new axle sit the same way, the only problem was the old axle joints were shot, so just maybe everything will be ok.

Old axle, see the dirt ring, this shows how far the old axle was seated in


Another shot


And here is the new axle seated, the same as the old one was.




Before people say hammer it in more, I hammered it in as much as its going in. The previous owner of this car ghetto rigged everything on this car, so I'm sure he tried replacing the axle before and messed something up. Just wondering if anyone ever faced a similar problem, if so what was the solution ?

 

if your talking about where the axles enter the tranny then i think thats how they are.

iv checked on an ef, eg, and ek and its all the same...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m3dia_lab &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your talking about where the axles enter the tranny then i think thats how they are.

iv checked on an ef, eg, and ek and its all the same...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, the pics show the driver side axle going into the tranny, its the space between the inboard cv joint and the trans.

Well I looked at the other hatchback in the family, the good thing about having 3 cars, but the axle on the hatchback is all the way in, butted up against the tranny. Anyone elses axles go in that much like in pic 3 and 4 ?

 

A thing to try is removing the snap ring (or whatever its called) at the splined end of the axle shaft and putting the axle into the tranny. If it slips all the way in, then the snap ring is just hanging up on something.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by keithv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A thing to try is removing the snap ring (or whatever its called) at the splined end of the axle shaft and putting the axle into the tranny. If it slips all the way in, then the snap ring is just hanging up on something.
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Gonna go try it right now. What could the snap ring be held up on though ?

 

Took the snap ring off and it still ends up going in the same amount. From what I can see it does not leak fluid and I do know its in there securely, I guess when I test drive it we will see.

 

i had same problem, u just have to line up the splines. some are tougher then others

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blowbyuuuu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i had same problem, u just have to line up the splines. some are tougher then others</TD></TR></TABLE>

I lined up the splines, I tried everything but it still will not go in any further.

 

Anyone else have any ideas ?

 

If mine don't seat right I just take a small piece of 2 by 4 and put it on the back of the inner joint, against the axle boot, then I hit it with a hammer. If that still doesn't work you might want to just try driving it. Some times the axles will pop all the way into place once you take a couple turns. But it's hard to tell from the pic exactly how far the axles are from seating. If they're really loose I wouldn't try it. If there also most in there, I'd drive it down to the shopping center and try a few tight circles. You could also try lubing the teeth of the joint and tranny to see if it makes it any easier.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Noahk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If mine don't seat right I just take a small piece of 2 by 4 and put it on the back of the inner joint, against the axle boot, then I hit it with a hammer. If that still doesn't work you might want to just try driving it. Some times the axles will pop all the way into place once you take a couple turns. But it's hard to tell from the pic exactly how far the axles are from seating. If they're really loose I wouldn't try it. If there also most in there, I'd drive it down to the shopping center and try a few tight circles. You could also try lubing the teeth of the joint and tranny to see if it makes it any easier.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Interesting, what type of lube ? Oil or grease ? Also its very close to being seated, its very snug, you can't pull it out you would need a pry bar so that's how snug it is. Also I tried the 2 by 4 method, but I was hitting on the shaft where the nut rotates on to.

 

i dont recommend hitting it on the INNER joint. youll likely make a hole in the boot. ive done this.... use the 2x4 on the OUTER joint and bang away.

actually, i think your axle is as far in as possible. you wouldnt want the walls to be touching anyway. the axle seal should be the only contact point.

 

You won't break the boot if you place it flush to where the boot makes attaches to the inner joine. But I would actually just drive it, if it's that snug it will just pop into place.

 

My axle went in about the same amount as yours when I was changing it out. even tried to pull it out and it was snug, had to use a screwdriver to get it out. What I had to do was, since I had the driver side jacked up. I had to put the axle in at a more 45 degree angle, instead of it looking like it was going straight in. Once I did that it went in smoothly and all the way up to the tranny case. Hasn't popped out or anything.

 

mine broke. youre squeezing the boot. come on noah.... trust me. you never do....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slywfbpsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My axle went in about the same amount as yours when I was changing it out. even tried to pull it out and it was snug, had to use a screwdriver to get it out. What I had to do was, since I had the driver side jacked up. I had to put the axle in at a more 45 degree angle, instead of it looking like it was going straight in. Once I did that it went in smoothly and all the way up to the tranny case. Hasn't popped out or anything.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Which way, 45 degree angle up or down ? See I'm not to worried because I think the old axle only went in that far to, you could see the dirt in the pic, and that area is where is stopped going in. I'll see tomorrow when I try to drive it, I'll try the angle thing though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Noahk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If mine don't seat right I just take a small piece of 2 by 4 and put it on the back of the inner joint, against the axle boot, then I hit it with a hammer. If that still doesn't work you might want to just try driving it. Some times the axles will pop all the way into place once you take a couple turns. But it's hard to tell from the pic exactly how far the axles are from seating. If they're really loose I wouldn't try it. If there also most in there, I'd drive it down to the shopping center and try a few tight circles. You could also try lubing the teeth of the joint and tranny to see if it makes it any easier.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Interesting, what type of lube ? Oil or grease ? Also its very close to being seated, its very snug, you can't pull it out you would need a pry bar so that's how snug it is.

 

Does it "click" when you put it in (with the snap ring on)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sporkcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does it "click" when you put it in (with the snap ring on)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes it clicked all right, I could actually feel it seat.

 

I haven't changed my axles in a while so I dont remember (I need to though, they've been clicking for months) but I'm probably going to change my oil tomorrow, so I'll take a look and snap a pic for ya. What engine?

 

The stock 1.6 that came in the crx. I looked at my dad's 1990 hatchback which is a 1.5 but when it comes to the axle its pretty much the same, his butts against the trans.

 

maybe you need a bigger hammer, i use a 5lb hammer i put the axle in as straight as possible, then tap it in to place, i take it that this is a dseries motor, take both axles out, stick your finger in the axle hole and you should feel this cylinder ring, make sure its not out of place, i will look in my helms and see if i can get a picture of what your suppose to be touching.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowpokesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe you need a bigger hammer, i use a 5lb hammer i put the axle in as straight as possible, then tap it in to place, i take it that this is a dseries motor, take both axles out, stick your finger in the axle hole and you should feel this cylinder ring, make sure its not out of place, i will look in my helms and see if i can get a picture of what your suppose to be touching.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I'm using a 5lb sledge and putting enough force behind the swing is not the problem, also I can look at the end of the axle and I know if I pound on it any more harder its gonna mushroom at the end. And a pic would be great. Also for some odd reason the new axle I got, the part where the nut threads into is shorter, not gonna be a problem just weird. Also this guy had the same problem

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=764882


Modified by 90blackcrx at 10:43 PM 11/29/2004

 

i checked the manual for the dseries and it doesnt show it,

i put my thumb in the whole and you will feel something thats kind of like a cylinder, in my case it was dropped down just a little bit so i used my finger until i could get it lined up good and tried again, i checked all of my helms and i couldnt find a clear picture of it,

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowpokesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i checked the manual for the dseries and it doesnt show it,

i put my thumb in the whole and you will feel something thats kind of like a cylinder, in my case it was dropped down just a little bit so i used my finger until i could get it lined up good and tried again, i checked all of my helms and i couldnt find a clear picture of it, </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well the hole should go right threw though, so am I suppose to feel like on top of the hole ? And do you mean get it lined up with the hole ?