I am looking into getting a LS or GS integra (i just crashed a mustang and need a new car). i've been looking into honda and i'll admit i used to dislike honda, but the more i read the more i like

I see that jspecauto sells JDM engines and they do sell Type R longblocks.

how would you go about swapping a Type R motor with 5 speed tranny into say, an LS or GS car?

the only 2 things i can see is if the LS or GS were automatic and you'd need a clutch pedal and assembly parts ( i would try to find a stick version if you guys convince me it's easier for the swap later on).

and the second problem that might occur is the standard gauges stop before the Type R's potential. Like would it be a problem that the LS's gauges stop at 8.5k rpm and 145mph? it would look pretty cool burying the speedometer needle any time you floored it

what do you guys think? any advice you could lend me?

 

A. Buy a manual ls or gsr..
B. Buy a Type R cluster

 

^yep.... what he said.

It's not a hard swap at all. If you get a 5 speed, it'll be almost a straight swap depending on OBD difference. Of course it will be an even easier project if you get an actual "full swap" ECU, tranny, motor, etc....

 

no offense if this is your first time swapping a honduh motAr, i would inquire with a local shop about labor. trying to use dumbestic knowledge on an import motAr does not fair to well.

1: find a good motor with no mods and low miles
2: find a jdm geared LSD tranny
3: find some1 to buy your old motor ( tons of peeps, are looking for a ls/vtec swap canidate) if its a gsr motor; TurbO that ish and call it a day.
4:buy some good mounts, axles, ecu(if not already included with motor) and prepare to buy alot of extra parts that you did not think you would have to replace in the first place.
5: let the oiL warM Up and hIhT \/ TEC y0

 

its from J Spec Auto and they have full swaps. including headers. in the us cars cannot have headers stock, jsut exhaust manifolds, and i might be wrong but i think that the japanese Type R motor has actual headers.

how much are new clusters? and wouldn't that cause a problem with odometer readings? IE fraud if anyone found out? j/w

 

header is the same thing as exhaust manifold.

 

insurance will be less for an ls/gs/rs model.

swap in the type r cluster if you want, but its not necessary.

depending on the type mods you want done to it, you can either opt for the oem itr ecu, or you can go for hondata or something for more aggressive mods/tuning/options.

5 speed would be easier.

 

i would probably do a short ram intake (doubt it will add more than 6/7hp but what does a n00b know).

maybe cams down the road, but i'd look just to drop in the Type R motor and catback exhaust.

i have some audio components that were gonna be tossed in the stang, but i'll throw em into the 'Teg when i get it. system is the first stuff down, motor next.

i hate to sound like a ricer, i dont wanna come off like that i am ready to learn and stick around

 

thats cool. unfortunately, bseries engines (integra, civic si, etc) dont really respond as well to little bolt ons as well as american muscle cars do (or so my friends say).

that short ram intake will net you, realistically, a good 3-4 whp. Honestly, I would focus more on beefing up the suspension. it will make for a more phun car.

o yeah, welcome to the land of twice the cams and half the cylinders.

 

well, most everyone on honda-tech doesnt support street racing, its dangerous and no need for it. and heavy stereo equipment is gonna make your honda any faster, i dont care that in F&F1 Jarule was bumping his system in his integra, they do add weight that isnt needed. Infact, most people on honda-tech do some form of weight reduction, wether it be removing the rear seats, opting for a lighter racing style seat or stripping your interior completely ( I opted for this route, nothing like your car being as loud inside as it is outside ). And first things first, get some good suspension and learn how to drive, then get a swap, enjoy.

 

american cars respond well to midpipes which i dont think imports have? the 350z might have em but i dunno, its a crossover pipe to mix exhaust gases in an odd firing motor. you can get 10wp just by puttin in a good X pipe with no catalytic converters. headers will give you a good 15whp, and intake can add up to 10whp. modding those cars though, man its expensive.

anyways, yea i plan to do suspension, 16'' lightweight rims, and a big brakes kit.

 

dont really see why you would need a big breaks kit for lightweight 16's.

type r w/ bump

what kind of budget are you looking at?

 

ehhh, im partial to big brake kits, and wheels and brakes isnt suspension, get a good coilover setup

 

heh. maing shoot.

depends on your budget and what you intend to do with the car. i cant really see an itr swapped integra with bump flying through the twisties and making full use of those full racing coilovers.

 

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$8k budget for car
$5k budget for motor/tranny/everything
$1k for remaining stereo stuff (still need a headunit and my brahma 12'')
$1k probly for suspension


I've got $3,500 ish for far for the project and will have a better paying job in the summer to save for the rest of the car.

i think this is my last post i can make today being a n00b (5 max limit?), so take care guess i appreciate helpin out a n00b. ill post in OT when i'm allowed to.

if anyone wants to add to the thread, by all means

oh BTW, i dont feel the stereo stuff will weigh the car down more than 100 lbs. shouldnt suck that much. its not gonna be a ghetto *** fiberglass custom PS2 neonz system. just a headunit, 2 amps, speakers will fit in stock location, and a single 12' Brahma sealed box in the trunk.

 

id like to add if you pay 8k for what is essentially an integra shell, then you are paying way way too much. look for an integra with a blown engine, theft recovery, or something like that. you can pick one up and save like 5k.

 

unless you just reeeally like the integra body style, you might want to consider a 92-95 civic hatch. the type r engine and assembly swaps relatively easily into that body.

it is lighter too. you can get a cx and it will weigh somewhere in the range of 2100-2200 lbs.

 

heh one more thing. if you are on a budget, have you considered ls/vtec, aka 'poor man's type r'?

you can mate that with an itr lsd tranny and youre good to go, with more hp/torque.

unless you wanna just be a stunna and be able to say, 'o yeah, itr swapped biatch.'

just trying to remember things i wished i knew going into this expensive game.

 

Do not get an auto tranny. It's way too much work. And I agree w/ Elemental, there are a lot of cheaper alternatives. Just think about it.

 

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No this is incorrect. An exhaust manifold is different from an exhaust header. A 'manifold' is usually iron and flat/rectangular in shape. A header is tubular and usually made out of steel, stainless or otherwise. In concept they serve the same purpose and go on the same place but they are technically different.