is it pretty easy to get 200whp with a 81.5mm gsr block, jg pro series b16 head, and a few bolt ons?...i see alot of 84mm ls/vtecs and 84mm gsr's doing a little over 200whp, and i know there are 200whp stock bore 1.8's...but just wondering how easy it is(or how hard)...oh, but on 92 octane...dont really want too high of compression, or crazy cams...but something for the daily driver.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=908471 there are plenty of threads of this on the same page. Reading is your friend. 200 whp is not easy or cheap. Those words should not be used in the same sentence. Have fun.

 

200whp IS easy, its just not cheap

Bore size does not do too much to increase HP numbers. IMO, the tradeoff between those few ponies and ring sealing properties is just not worth it.

 

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Bore size does not do too much to increase HP numbers. IMO, the tradeoff between those few ponies and ring sealing properties is just not worth it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Everything is easy if you just have the money to burn

 

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Easy and cheap = B20VTEC.

A little harder with a 1.8L but still doesn't have to be expencive.

Intertune TV proved this a long time ago.

 

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wont be reliable. i guaruntee it.

 

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wont be reliable. i guaruntee it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong.

Been proven.

 

lets see some proof

 

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There has been more than one thread on here about it.

 

show me one

 

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Easy and cheap = B20VTEC.

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Very true

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Wrong.

Been proven. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Also very true, but NOT cheap.

 

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Also very true, but NOT cheap. </TD></TR></TABLE>

210+whp for under $3K is cheap in my book (for all motor).

 

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Search is back up, nothing is stopping you.

 

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i dont have to search. i know good reliability doesnt come cheap. The poster above you agreed with me, so you can stop it with the

 

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by the way, show me a cost list on this mythical $3000 dollar 210whp reliable B20Vtec. im sure alot of people on here would like to see it.

 

200 WHP can be quite expensive if you go the NA route. If you go FI then it is easier to achieve but you will want to build your motor to handle the boost.

 

This thread may help you in your quest:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=762934

 

i remember that thread from a while ago, ******* cool what they did and how they decided to share it with the HT community....

 

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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=965320

 

these 200whp+ do not come cheap. Only reason it may be a little cheaper for them, is becasue of there tuning abilities. But after all machine work, tuning, etc. its going to be more than 3k easy.

b20 bare block(if you can even find one) 300
itr crank 350
gsr rods (modified for afer market pistons)100?
b16head with valevtrain and work.2200


Right there is 3g and thats not even close to being done. just parts alone. A good cylinder head is key to making 200whp+ even though not totaly necessary. I figured a portflow head (1100) + cams and gears and valvetrain. all adds up faster than you would expect.

 

You guys amuse me. How about you quit with the "show me" and get out and do it for yourself like I did.

People who can't do it themselves so they think it can't be done.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbociv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">these 200whp+ do not come cheap. Only reason it may be a little cheaper for them, is becasue of there tuning abilities. But after all machine work, tuning, etc. its going to be more than 3k easy.

b20 bare block(if you can even find one) 300
itr crank 350
gsr rods (modified for afer market pistons)100?
b16head with valevtrain and work.2200


Right there is 3g and thats not even close to being done. just parts alone. A good cylinder head is key to making 200whp+ even though not totaly necessary. I figured a portflow head (1100) + cams and gears and valvetrain. all adds up faster than you would expect. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If I were a shop I would definetely want you to buy from me. You spend way to much money on ****.

 

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https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1
i'm sure it was built with realiablity and longevity in mind. B20vtec here on HT put down 220whp and has 40K miles on his motor i believe.

 

maybe you guys missed the point, i never said a b20.ls vtec couldnt be reliable. I wouldnt say that, cuz i drive one... i just know it isnt cheap....

 

i dont think any NA honda build is really "cheap" if you go thru it right and get quality machine work done and dont cut corners on the build. i feel that it takes some considerable knowledge about what you are doing to hit 200whp NA with a honda, unless you have somebody else completely build it and tune it, which in most cases is going to cost you a shitload too.