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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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I was wondering what you shift at when racing? my car is a stock 94 ex, i usually shift right when redline starts(about 6500). What is the highest this car can rev and am i shifting about right?
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Shift at redline, yes. No higher. Your valvetrain isn't designed for those RPMs.

Your car is stock? A stock Accord? No need to race then. =P
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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car makes peak power at 5.5k......why would you ever want to go much further?
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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I read that you should shift around 10% under redline. So I shift mine at 6k. I think thats a good place to shift
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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i have a 2003 accord EX and i havent done any racing in it.. its still stock for now. But i have taken it out joy riding once on the old country back roads that are about 10 min from my house and i was shifting around 5.5 or 6. That is where i seemed to get the best engine response. for downshiftign i waited until the RPMS got around 3.5 or 4.... That worked best i think.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fw190bvi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">car makes peak power at 5.5k......why would you ever want to go much further?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't understand gearing much. If you're racing, shifting at redline will ensure you land at your powerpoint instead of well below it. That's what gearing is all about; landing in your powerband after a shift.

If you shift at "peak power" like you suggested, you'd fall waaaaaaaay out of your powerband and get passed by everyone.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin Klemgold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You don't understand gearing much. If you're racing, shifting at redline will ensure you land at your powerpoint instead of well below it. That's what gearing is all about; landing in your powerband after a shift.

If you shift at "peak power" like you suggested, you'd fall waaaaaaaay out of your powerband and get passed by everyone.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly right, but a lot of people don't understand this. Good explanation
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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i've taken my 97 up to 7k ...i have no idea when/where the fuel cutoff is lol but i was surprised it didn't kick my ***
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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wow 7k and you didnt spin a bearing? damn, ive taken my 4th gen up to 6250(redline) and no higher. theres no way i would ever **** with that red area cuz its obviously there for a reason
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by azian21485 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've taken my 97 up to 7k </TD></TR></TABLE>

You're an ***.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin Klemgold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You don't understand gearing much. If you're racing, shifting at redline will ensure you land at your powerpoint instead of well below it. That's what gearing is all about; landing in your powerband after a shift.

If you shift at "peak power" like you suggested, you'd fall waaaaaaaay out of your powerband and get passed by everyone.</TD></TR></TABLE>

never thought about it that way, thanks for the explination
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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You sir are a complete moron for shifting at 7k on an accord...thats like trying to take a **** real hard, keep on pushing it to the limit and congratulations, youve got hemorrhoids
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 01:18 AM
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umm i also drive a 94 ex... only gear i hit redline in is first. i have no problem keeping the rpms dropping below 4500
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f23accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You sir are a complete moron for shifting at 7k on an accord...thats like trying to take a **** real hard, keep on pushing it to the limit and congratulations, youve got hemorrhoids</TD></TR></TABLE>

the only time i take it that high is during autocross...and that's because i either shift into third and then downshift right back into second right away or ride it out in second...sometimes it's better to stay in gear..and when i looked at my tach it was buried in the red
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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if you really insist on knowing the optimal shift points...
you'll need a dyno graph and all of your gear ratios.

<U>http://www.welltall.com/ymc/discovery/car/shiftpt.html</U>


its not that hard to calculate.

author does not have a solid english base, so his wording is hard to interpret. you have to look at what he's done, then you'll know how to proceed.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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i shift at 7,300, but thats only cuz im running the wrong ecu
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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racing an accord w/ a f22 that is stock is retarded. the car is slow as hell and heavy as hell. just drive it and shift normally at like 3... unless you got a h22 or spray or turbo or all.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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it is retarded as all hell, but you cant let those stupid ***** in ricey cavaliers rev at you and just let yourself become a means for them to inflate their egos
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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i have never gone above 3000rpm on my car...
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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maybe retarded by i never back down(unless i know for a fact i will get my *** handed to me) but still out of the 15 or so races i've only lost 3 lol, lot of interstate races . but i have been known to have good starts lol
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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only lost 3 outta 15 thats not bad.... what kind of cars are you racing?

before i figured out the f22 was one of the slowest things ever i would lose to everything even a ford focus hatch (non svt) it was sad

but now thats a different story... im not that slow anymore
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by booja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">only lost 3 outta 15 thats not bad.... what kind of cars are you racing?
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My guess is Geo's.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin Klemgold &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My guess is Geo's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

hey, those geo metros are pimp. them 3 bangers will smoke on any car
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shinbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have never gone above 3000rpm on my car... </TD></TR></TABLE>I've got a '99 LX with manual transmission, I normally shift at between 2,500 and 3,000 rpms, rarely above. Then again, I'm not drag racing anybody, I'm just trying to get to my destination.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Heat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've got a '99 LX with manual transmission, I normally shift at between 2,500 and 3,000 rpms, rarely above. Then again, I'm not drag racing anybody, I'm just trying to get to my destination.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Even my auto goes to 3500 with less than 50% throttle....you know, it can be bad if you're shifting too low...if you bog the engine you are putting a ton of pressure on the block...that's bad.

Don't be afraid to rev it a little bit....I wouldn't want my shifts LANDING below 2 grand on a four banger with no torque.
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