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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Ok, so I got my 2000 Type R as a theft recovery out of New Jersey. I had the guys name who owned it....but I lost it. I want to know what the badge number of my Type R is. Is there any correlation between the vin number and the badge number? The last 4 digits of my vin are 1482. If you know Acura/Honda vin numbers you'll be able to figure out the rest of the VIN minus the check digit. Anyway, if there is anyone who would know, I'm sure they'd be on this forum somewhere.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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Once its lost, Its lost. sorry
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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man that sucks, you're sure about that?
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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oooo. I can do a Carfax on my car, get the guys name who previously owned it and ask him if he remembers.

Damn theives....Some idiot in a hatchback is probably driving around in NJ right now with Type R stickers and my damn armrest with my number on it.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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I say find the first owner and ask, that's the only way we (H-T) know of.
Many people have tried to play the number game and nothing pans out.

the only thing that is close is that the Vin is somewhat close to the # tag but that's not always right.

Example mine is 23 and 26 ...
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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ive checked out my VIN, serial # and car #. nothing helpful at all.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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When I went to the Hondata convention in Maryland awhile back I spoke to someone from a shop in California who was in my same situation. He told me that he knew some higher up with Honda that were able to cross-reference his VIN number to the badge number. But he said it was a pull a few strings favor kinda thing, so he wouldn't be able to do the same for me I don't question his credibility, I can't remember the name of the shop, but he was there with a few other guys from the shop. I reckon that somewhere in honda there's a record of the badge numbers and their respective VINs. I'll also bet that whoever has access to that list probably doesn't surf on Honda-tech.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 03:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type-GS-R-Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Is there any correlation between the vin number and the badge number? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have been doing a study on the 97 ITRs to determine if such a correlation exist. It is much easier working with the 97 since compaired to yours less then 500 were produced for the North American market. Bottom line is there is no direct correlation between Vin# and Badge# It seems as the vehicle came down the assembly line/lines, that the interior with badge on the armrest and the engine with block# come from different areas so close but not exact. Although the engine block number is close it too is off by a lot and not in the correct order.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 05:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daddy ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have been doing a study on the 97 ITRs to determine if such a correlation exist. It is much easier working with the 97 since compaired to yours less then 500 were produced for the North American market. Bottom line is there is no direct correlation between Vin# and Badge# It seems as the vehicle came down the assembly line/lines, that the interior with badge on the armrest and the engine with block# come from different areas so close but not exact. Although the engine block number is close it too is off by a lot and not in the correct order.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let me get this striaght, You have access to ITR VIN#S ?
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Let me get this striaght, You have access to ITR VIN#S ?</TD></TR></TABLE>


YIKES!!!

Why don't you guys just take the numbered plate out, keep it somewhere safe and replace it with a general armrest badge from a 2001? Once that numbered badge is gone...it's gone.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type-GS-R-Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man that sucks, you're sure about that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

youre the first guy to ever ask that question on this forum

and bbasso is the first guy to ever reply to this kind of question.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type-GS-R-Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I want to know what the badge number of my Type R is. Is there any correlation between the vin number and the badge number?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can find runs of ITR that make it appear that there is a correlation between the VIN and the ITR number for a short run, but then an odd one appears in the middle of the sequence.

What has happened is that the ITR were not necessarily finished in the order the chassis was produced. The ITR chassis were moved around between the various people who did the modifications and finishing, and something could go wrong or have to be re-done on one chassis, or a chassis might get held up for whatever reason in the finishing process.

What happened with the guys who've been able to find their ITR numbers from the chassis number is that they find somebody in Torrance who has the time to track down where that chassis number was shipped, and then he can find in the dealer records (very often) a note about what ITR number was associated with that chassis.

As far as I know, there has never been a permanent record made for any market of how the chassis numbers fit the ITR numbers, though I'm sure it has occurred to people that it's time to do this.

The original poster's best bet is to find the original owner or original dealer, either of whom might have a record of the ITR number associated with his chassis.

You'd think after all these years the job would be easier, but it just isn't.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Let me get this striaght, You have access to ITR VIN#S ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes and no ...... it is easy to run vin# in carfax and see if the number had any action on it. I ran a few hundred to see approximately where the vins started and stopped for the 97 US model.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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the search function my friend...

the old thread says...the VIN has no correlation to the numbering of each vehicle.

someone just grabbed the numbers out of a bin and slapped them on.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by visi0n &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the search function my friend...

the old thread says...the VIN has no correlation to the numbering of each vehicle.

someone just grabbed the numbers out of a bin and slapped them on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would not go that far...
low -low
Mid- mid
high- high
from what have seen/heard.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
low -low
Mid- mid
high- high
from what have seen/heard.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

that is exactly what my research shows and I have enough good vin/badge/block# combos to say although not direct, a correlation does exist.

If you know someone with a vin# close to yours it will get you in the ball park
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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i feel for you man i got my car with a jdm center con. and i don't have my # i know i'm # 01-133 but that only what the first owner told me i have no facts on it
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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Thanks for the input guys. I found the name and email address of the guy who originally owned it, so I think I'm gonna shoot him an email. Thanks again.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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It seems carfaxing the vin, finding the original dealer(mine showed up on my carfax report), calling the dealer, and have them search records for number would work. Almost all limited run cars, will have the number recorded by the dealer, along with the customary mark-up.
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