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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 06:19 AM
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aight so i have acura TL HID's in my 2000 hatch and i was wondering what the effects would be if i was to take off the little refelctor thing inside the headlight housing that covers the main headlight bulb (not the turn signal reflector)..will my HID's be brighter? / have different aim? / have different color?

if anyone knows please let me know thanks in advance
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 06:22 AM
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I'm sure you'll find something in here:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=683685
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 06:33 AM
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yea i searched through that thread and its more about what are the best setups to use and how to retrofit in projectors and cutoffs

any1 know for sure??bump
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jay.dee.em1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aight so i have acura TL HID's in my 2000 hatch and i was wondering what the effects would be if i was to take off the little refelctor thing inside the headlight housing that covers the main headlight bulb (not the turn signal reflector)..will my HID's be brighter? / have different aim? / have different color?

if anyone knows please let me know thanks in advance</TD></TR></TABLE>

that little reflector thing is the only thing that will keep people from going blind when you come done the road......EK headlights are horrible to have an HID KIT in anyways....i can only imagine how disgusting they would be without any sort of shield on the bulb....
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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Casper shields + removing that = great cutoff

EDIT: The now banned "fresh pizza guy" has that very setup and it's amazing. Way better than user who00knows' now sold car that had HIDs in the stock housings with the aiming peice still there.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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right on
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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aight thanks
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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yes , if you intend to use casper shields.....this will be of benefit to you!
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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I had some BMW HID's in my 98 stock housings, no alterations. They were so bright it was silly, even with the reflector in there you couldn't look at them. I loved driving with them it was like the sun never went down, but had to endure being hi-beamed by 1/3 of every oncoming car.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adirondackR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very nice

just need these


https://www.casperselectronics..._Code=</TD></TR></TABLE>

BTW I have OEM CTR headlamps that don't come with the diffusers like usdm headlamps

my cutoff is about as good as it gets for being a non-projector set up. I use different/better shields that you only get with kits from http://www.autolamps-online.com
that look like this (hylow application)


EDIT if you don't use casper shields with HIDs in reflector housings you are blinding people WHICH can be prevented



Modified by adirondackR at 1:43 PM 11/23/2004
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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My friend did this to his HIDs and they are really damn bright. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten pulled over yet. As a courtesy for oncoming traffic and people ahead of you, don't do this.
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My friend did this to his HIDs and they are really damn bright. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten pulled over yet. As a courtesy for oncoming traffic and people ahead of you, don't do this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

is your friend using casper shields? - if he is NOT, then they would still be as bright (IE blinding oncoming traffic w/ton of misdirected light & glare) then as if the stock diffusers where still in the housings

NO ONE should retrofit HIDs bulbs into reflective housings without using some sort of CASPER SHIELD &lt;--- get this through your heads - *busts out the razor* "you wanna look like my avatar?"


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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adirondackR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

BTW I have OEM CTR headlamps that don't come with the diffusers like usdm headlamps

my cutoff is about as good as it gets for being a non-projector set up. I use different/better shields that you only get with kits from http://www.autolamps-online.com
that look like this (hylow application)


EDIT if you don't use casper shields with HIDs in reflector housings you are blinding people WHICH can be prevented

Modified by adirondackR at 1:43 PM 11/23/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

i've always wondered if those casper shields hinder on the light output. and that kit you said you got is almost 700 bucks. but i dont doubt phillips cause thats what i had in my old accord. awesome stuff
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marshun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i've always wondered if those casper shields hinder on the light output. and that kit you said you got is almost 700 bucks. but i dont doubt phillips cause thats what i had in my old accord. awesome stuff</TD></TR></TABLE>

those shields do not hinder the light output - basically redirects it to the area that should be lit (low beam area)...it does do ALOT to keep light from being shined upward into oncoming traffic...I have never been flashed (highbeams) by on coming traffic in over a year of having this kit

BTW high beam function does NOT work terribly well - due to the fact the the h4 halogen bulb is a dual filament bulb while HID capsules (bulbs) are not. there is a shutter that opens underneath the bulb that allows more light & glare to be cast up above the regular cutoff line

BTW I paid like ~ $600 shipped from england (2 day UPS)...tell them you are from H-T & they should cut a 'lil off the price...not too mention http://www.autolamps-online.com is one of the ONLY authorized philips HID suppliers out there (listed on philips main website) & their kit is the one of (if not the) only reflector housing HID retrofit kits legal in europe (ECE code - like DOT here in the states)
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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you could just aim the beams a little lower than usual
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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 40 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you could just aim the beams a little lower than usual </TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry but we aren't talking about halogen light here - have you ever seen HIDs in a halogen reflective housing without caspers.

aiming the housing down is NOT going to do much because the light thats cast out looks like this
NO CASPER SHIELD

see how much light is cast all the way up to the top of the garage

<U>VS.</U>
here is a couple of pics of my HIDs WITH CASPER SHIELDS

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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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Thats why you cant buy HID kits for reflective housings anymore--Glare.

If you want a good HID setup and Pics go to http://www.hidplanet.com

They sell nice retrofits. go projectors you don't blind people with the glare
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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so if you put these casper shields on is there any cutting or altering involved, or is it simple just pop it in?
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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adirondackR, Do you have D2R or D2S type HID bulbs?
Did you leave the stock bulb shield in or take it out?
I just ordered a set of Casper shields and I have a set of Infinity I35 HIDs I'm planing to run in my '00 Si.

Any Suggestions on what I should do for the install? Paint anything or do any type of modifications to keep the glare to a minimum without cutting to much light out from the actual bulb.

Thanks!
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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I think im gonna try cutting the stock reflector and just use the casper shield.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 04:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xkwzt21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so if you put these casper shields on is there any cutting or altering involved, or is it simple just pop it in?</TD></TR></TABLE>

these shields ( https://www.casperselectronics..._Code ) are plug & play with OE D2S or D2R bulbs for headlamps that use h4 bulbs (the shield actually runs the length of the bottom of the bulb - which cuts the light off from being reflected upward).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Outkasted24 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">adirondackR, Do you have D2R or D2S type HID bulbs?
Did you leave the stock bulb shield in or take it out?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the HID kit I bought uses a D2S bulb (typically used in projectors only) but you can see the casper shield that comes with my kit is specifically designed to be used with that. lol...here is your answer about the diffuser/shield built into USDM headlight housings
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adirondackR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW I have OEM JDM CTR headlamps that don't come with the built in diffusers (shields) like usdm headlamps</TD></TR></TABLE>


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Outkasted24 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just ordered a set of Casper shields and I have a set of Infinity I35 HIDs I'm planing to run in my '00 Si.

Any Suggestions on what I should do for the install? Paint anything or do any type of modifications to keep the glare to a minimum without cutting to much light out from the actual bulb.

Thanks!
-Jeff</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't have any other suggestions off hand. if you like buy 1 single headlamp housing (spare) & bake it up in the oven & remove the diffuser/shield thats built in - then put it back together & take comparison pics one light with diffuser & one without. Its my opinion you might get slightly better output without the shields but I don't know if it also increases glare. good luck
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 05:59 AM
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Yo where can u get a pair of those things i really need them and do they work on a 92 civic
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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i believe my HID kit from xentronix (sp) came with casper shields all along the bulbs.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 12:59 AM
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not only do you NOT blind oncoming cars, you put MORE light to the ground with retrofits.

all a casper shield does is stop light from hitting your reflective housing.

if youre not gonna do a retrofit...i dont think you should get HID's.

also the 96-00 reflective headlight housing SUCKS with HID's in'em.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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mine arent bad, i never get headlights flashed at me. theyre aimed nicely, and theres HARDLY any glare that comes above (jagged) cutoff line.

i think if youre just voicing the opinion on here with no experience, just hopping on the bandwagon like everyone else that passes around false info here on h/t, then just gtfo out of this thread.
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