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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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well i drove my gf's parents supra awhile back and i noticed that the steering response in really nice. Is there any gear thats u can switch in the steering box in the rack n pinion or some kinda other swap? just a question i dont think anyone has asked..
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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Supra sweeeeeeeeeeettt but yah man, this topic has been covered before, run a search before you get flamed on, just a heads up
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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also it's not just the steering rack or gears that made it feel that way... it's the structural and suspension that makes the steering snap like that as well

the civic's are bendy slugs, try strut tower bars and anti-sway bars... you made be surprised.
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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Yea i did a search i just dont think i came up with good enough topics to search on. I always search cause i dont like to wait around anyway but since i couldnt find it i posted. Damn i gotta find that post i would like to know. My brother has a 99 neon just H&R springs on suspension and man that things reacts better then the supra.

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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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Lower center of gravity. New tires. Put your car slightly positive camber throw the caster negative and you are good to go. Should be pretty responsive . I believe the 88 CRX's had a different steering setup. You could see if the CRX has a thrust preload. tight that bad boy up should be a little more responsive.

And some sway bars to prevent Chassis roll, stiff springs, stiff shocks, lower it.

Am I right or wrong?
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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I have some stiff *** coil overs, its lowered with 205's on it but still not much...it has the stock si sway bars...im switching to tokicko HP struts with tokico springs...then some strut bars...maybe a tiny bit smaller steering wheel would do some..seems like a bigger one would tho...never heard of a thrust preload...wonder if it does have it anyone know??? if so where?
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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It would be on the steering rack. near where the stub shaft is of the rack. eee kinda hard to explain.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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do a search for "steering quickener" if you want another way.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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Quaife recently released a quicker steering rack for EF/ED. Also, bushings and bars will help.

Nobody's mentioned this yet, but with the right alignment, you cam make anything twitchy as hell...but the tires are gonna pay.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Lol i just typed that and not a thing...i'll have to look into the quaife because i'll tell u what. Just feeling that response feels great.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatch2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quaife recently released a quicker steering rack for EF/ED. Also, bushings and bars will help.

Nobody's mentioned this yet, but with the right alignment, you cam make anything twitchy as hell...but the tires are gonna pay. </TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecn8ive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lower center of gravity. New tires. Put your car slightly positive camber throw the caster negative and you are good to go. Should be pretty responsive . I believe the 88 CRX's had a different steering setup. You could see if the CRX has a thrust preload. tight that bad boy up should be a little more responsive.

And some sway bars to prevent Chassis roll, stiff springs, stiff shocks, lower it.

Am I right or wrong? </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol I made a comment not positive if its true or not. Also we have built in caster and camber on our CRX's don't we? But there are still ways to tweak it
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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No i dont think u can adjust our front camber and caster with stock set-up without a kit. I mean i got it done without a kit but the guy had to modify but he's goof with efs so he did it with all oem stuff
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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My crx turns in really well because of the alignment. Give it the tiniest bit of toe out in the front, like 1/16" or so, 0 toe in the rear. The steering comes alive.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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Well im trying to find the quaife steering rack i just read something about it on a post on honda-acura.net. I guess its suppose to be a 15:1 ratio (2.5 turns to lock)as to the 19:1 in the stock rack(4 turns to lock) something like that but no ones sure if they ever came out with it..i guess it was suppose to be around $250 i would definatly buy it..keep a look out for something....awww found it guys... https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=2


Modified by tRex99 at 3:47 PM 11/20/2004
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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uh.. that will feather your edges from the inside shoulder to the outside shoulder. the camber is a directional stabilizer. Meaning giving it some positive camber and you can turn a little quicker. If you have negative caster you can have a bit more twichy steering. But thats just IMO. Could be totally wrong.. (but I don't think I am )

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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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Also the 88 CRX I believe came with a different type of steering rack. Check into that. I believe the HF also.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Excessive toe will cause excessive wear, a slight toe out will not cause enough of a difference over the life of your tires to make a hoot of difference. I have 3 track events on mine, and I can't tell a thing.

Positive camber is really not something I would try to achieve...
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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Hey I'm just stating what would give a bit more response. I would guess that the toe out may help since there is toe out on turns.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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well look back up at my last post i edited it and it has a link to another post going on right now...quaife steering rack was created, the ratios are a little mixed up but as soon as i figure them out i might be intrested
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecn8ive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lower center of gravity. New tires. Put your car slightly positive camber throw the caster negative and you are good to go. Should be pretty responsive . I believe the 88 CRX's had a different steering setup. You could see if the CRX has a thrust preload. tight that bad boy up should be a little more responsive.

And some sway bars to prevent Chassis roll, stiff springs, stiff shocks, lower it.

Am I right or wrong? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, you'd want negative camber.
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