Well I just recently got my car painted and the body shop guy whom I know for a while gave me some advice. He told not to use anything like Armor All to clean the interior or the tires and wheels. Reason for this is bc they put silicone in to their products which damages ur paint. You might find that carzy but with the heat or the tire turning it causes it make fumes and the same goes for the interior. So he told me to use transmission oil to shine the tires and to clean the interior a rag and water. Like he told how would u clean ur body with Armor all or soap and water. Just though I would share......

oh and if guys dont believe me he told to try this out : Take a piece of cardboard and spray Armor All on it wait a day or two then spray some paint on it and you will see the paint not stick and allkinds of other ****.

David

 

well i dont know about them but the armor all i use to clean my interior does not make it out onto the paint. im no professional but im no slob either but thanx

 

interesting information ....

 

i like it when my tires are shiney, my paint will be ok... i dont slop on the tireshine...

 

i've used armor all on all my cars and been using it for years... never had a single problem ever with it damaging paint... i never get armor all on the paint either... i used to use the spray and i'd spray it on a rag and wipe down the interior or so on... so nothing excessive... but now that they have the wipes... i just use those... makes it real easy and not excessive either...

 

I use Black Magic for tire shine and Armor All for my interior. Been using it for years and apply it every 2 weeks. Never had a problem. Tell your guy to keep on smoking the pipe.

 

Im not saying that u guys are slobs but even if you do everything so perfectly this will still happen... Dont your tires get hot when u drive well that heat make that Armor All melt in to fumes which goes all over ur front fenders. Also when u clean ur interior doesnt the sun shine on ur dash well doesnt that cause it to have a reaction which causes fumes and you probably do drive with ur windows open when u drive and its 30 degrees outside.

Also try using transmission oil on ur tires they will shine just as good.

Guys dont have to take my advice just wanted to help thats all so dont need to hate.

Dave

 

Just get a small sponge spray and wipe...no need to get it on the paint...

 

ok well u guys will not notice right away the effect of it now but when u get ur car painted again ull see that certain area have imperfections bc the paint couldnt stick properly...


Also some of you need to stop smoking ur pipes bc the guy who told me this have 30 years of experience and paint ferrari and lambos 2-3 times a month so i think he knows what he is talking about. Also silicone is used in all those products and silicone is no good for ur paint but as some of you are body work experts you should know that.

Dave

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93SiVtec677 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not saying that u guys are slobs but even if you do everything so perfectly this will still happen... Dont your tires get hot when u drive well that heat make that Armor All melt in to fumes which goes all over ur front fenders. Also when u clean ur interior doesnt the sun shine on ur dash well doesnt that cause it to have a reaction which causes fumes and you probably do drive with ur windows open when u drive and its 30 degrees outside.

Also try using transmission oil on ur tires they will shine just as good.

Guys dont have to take my advice just wanted to help thats all so dont need to hate.

Dave</TD></TR></TABLE>

you don't put armor all on the tread of the tires... the tread on the tires will get warm because as you drive it creates friction which creates heat... the sides of the tire are what you put armor all on... there is no friction on the side therefore they dont heat up... on top of that... if your tire ever got hot and armorall turned into fumes while driving... there is enough air and ventilation that the fumes will do nothing... after a long drive... if you touch the tread of the tire... it will be warm... not hot... if you touch the side... it is cold... not warm

and if you use it on the inside... and you drive with the windows down... its the same as with the tires... theres enough air and ventilation to where it can do no harm...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93SiVtec677 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok well u guys will not notice right away the effect of it now but when u get ur car painted again ull see that certain area have imperfections bc the paint couldnt stick properly...


Also some of you need to stop smoking ur pipes bc the guy who told me this have 30 years of experience and paint ferrari and lambos 2-3 times a month so i think he knows what he is talking about. Also silicone is used in all those products and silicone is no good for ur paint but as some of you are body work experts you should know that.

Dave </TD></TR></TABLE>

a proper paint job consists of sandblasting, primering, and painting... anything that was left on the previous paint will be GONE... who the hell would paint on top of existing paint?!

 

armor all will also damage your dash if u use it on your dash...it will start to crazk it sooner than it should, what he is saying is true

 

thats why you clean it with the cleaner and then apply the protectant... the protectant prevents damage to it... if you use just the cleaner... then when the sun hits it it will dry it out... and you should also leave your windows cracked a little when the sun is shining to prevent heat inside the car... all the heat trapped inside the car will do damage to the vinyl regardless of whether it has armor all or not

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eg6T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">armor all will also damage your dash if u use it on your dash...it will start to crazk it sooner than it should, what he is saying is true</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was waiting on someone to say it, so I could second that

 

thank you eg6t

so you think that just bc you have ventilation and air moving the fumes its enough so what do u do at a light then....

Look im not going to fight with you guys do what u want with your cars...

And yes i do know what paint job consist of, I didnt have my car for a month and i have day to day progress of it getting sanded, water sanded ....... painted, clear coated and buffed then waxed.

Ill post pic of it when i get a chance its a Berlina Black.

Dave

 

it will never crack if you take care of it... its not something you just apply once and thats it... every time you wash your car, you should also do the interior... maintain it... i wash my car and apply armor all every two weeks... sometimes more frequently depending on the weather conditions...

 

its not something that gives off massive amounts of fumes... the fumes it does give off will get blown away quickly and not stick around... at a light? the wind blowing is enough to make the fumes go away... and if theres no wind? the fumes it gives off is so little that it wont do any damage... and thats assuming that your interior is hot enough for that... with the wind blowing while driving and everything, the dash will stay cool

 

you do realize that transmission fluid along with hydraulic fluid are acidic composistions...meaning as it is absorbed in to your vinyle and leather it is slowly eating away at it. thats why on the back of the container it says: if skin comes in contact wash thoroughly with soap and water, launder or dispose of any clothes imediately if they become soiled. I ve heard baby oil, and tire dressing but tranny fluid is a little crazy....your car must smell like a garage.

 

ya well dont put the hole bottle neither. just put some on a rag and rub into the tire.......

its up to you to believe me or not bc its ur investement but like you can see im not the only one you knows about it there are others who agree with what i say..


Dave

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93SiVtec677 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I just recently got my car painted and the body shop guy whom I know for a while gave me some advice. He told not to use anything like Armor All to clean the interior or the tires and wheels. Reason for this is bc they put silicone in to their products which damages ur paint. You might find that carzy but with the heat or the tire turning it causes it make fumes and the same goes for the interior. So he told me to use transmission oil to shine the tires and to clean the interior a rag and water. Like he told how would u clean ur body with Armor all or soap and water. Just though I would share......

oh and if guys dont believe me he told to try this out : Take a piece of cardboard and spray Armor All on it wait a day or two then spray some paint on it and you will see the paint not stick and allkinds of other ****.

David </TD></TR></TABLE>

this must be information only he knows about.. that or him and you both have serious issues with following directions.

If you follow the directions on the labels, you'll see you only put it on as needed and then let it sit before you go galavanting. They tell you to immediatly wipe off any that may have gotten on the vehicle, rim or plastic parts.

As for it affecting your paint... from the inside of the car? Yeah that logically makes sense

Lastly, his "test" is redundant. Go spray a stick of butter, I guarentee you the paint wont stick. There for butter is bad for your paint? Go spray a pile of carnuba wax, the paint wont stick to that either. So is carnuba wax now bad for your car?

ANY and EVERY body shop knows you cannot paint over grease/dirt/contaminates because the paint will not stick. That is why shops are kept super clean, and everything is degreased, cleaned and dried before final paint is on.

Sure armoral may be damaging to your finish if sprayed directly on the paint and then left there, but they say right on the bottle not to do that... And last time I checked, that stuff was for vynal and interior, not paint.

If these products were bad; 1) the knowledge would be a lot more wide spread. 2) there would be millions of unhappy customers 3) there would of been either a huge class action suit, or the product would of been changed.

yowza

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93SiVtec677 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok well u guys will not notice right away the effect of it now but when u get ur car painted again ull see that certain area have imperfections bc the paint couldnt stick properly...


Also some of you need to stop smoking ur pipes bc the guy who told me this have 30 years of experience and paint ferrari and lambos 2-3 times a month so i think he knows what he is talking about. Also silicone is used in all those products and silicone is no good for ur paint but as some of you are body work experts you should know that.

Dave </TD></TR></TABLE>

Firstly, if imperfections came from the paint not sticking, it would then crack and flake off.
Those imperfections come from the finish of the paint and primers. Paint does not dry perfectly smooth, gloss paints show this more than anything - Thats why flat paint has better hiding power. Its not its nature to dry prefectly smooth, yhats why those show quality finishes take a lot of man hours wet sanding and buffing.

My paint guy has been doing what he does professionally since 1950. He has won the national dupot paint award for best paint job several years running, worked on all types of cars, but primarilly old hot rods and muscle cars.


Secondly, your tires get hot, but your side walls do not get hot enough to melt any silicone product. If you, again, follow the directions on the can. You will read that it clearly says DO NOT PUT IT ON THE TREAD OF THE TIRE. Thats what gets hot, and even so they only say it because of traction issues.

 

[QUOTE=93SiVtec677]thank you eg6t

so you think that just bc you have ventilation and air moving the fumes its enough so what do u do at a light then....

Look im not going to fight with you guys do what u want with your cars...

And yes i do know what paint job consist of, I didnt have my car for a month and i have day to day progress of it getting sanded, water sanded ....... painted, clear coated and buffed then waxed.

Ill post pic of it when i get a chance its a Berlina Black.

Dave[/QUOTE

was that sarcastic?

 

Lets see who would know more about this stuff....the chemical engineer who went to school for 4+ years and developed the product or some body shop guy???

And btw, spray paint wont stick on to an oily surface (your cardboard test)

 

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Thank you, finally someones providing pertinent info.
My old car was a 90 CRX, that was painted Milano red, and I was completely obsessed with keeping it clean. I detailed it once a week, and used tire shine, as well as Formula 2001 on the dash and plastics. For 4 years, the car looked mint, inside and out, never had any cracking problems or discolorations. I would say that I overused the products, because I was so meticulous with that car.

 

he must have been talkin about before u get it painted, cause if u got armorall on it anytime close to when u get it painted you can get fisheyes everywhere. other than that its perfectly fine to use.