TIG + Aluminum + Cleaning Question

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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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Does anyone here know if MEK (a solvent) would react to cause contamination in aluminum? I usually use ether but i was fooling around at work the other day and all i could find to clean the aluminum was MEK so that's what i used, now it could have been because the piece of aluminum i was welding to was some kind of weird cast alloy that only 1 person in central alberta is certified to weld on (very rare rail cars use this type of metal, i've only ever seen one.) the piece i was playing with was just his old test piece. I got a bead running fairly well but it was still acting weird, in some cases it would really **** up the piece and in others it would run a near perfect bead. depending on how much filler i put in, and when i added the filler to the puddle it would contaminate as well.

just a weird anomaly i observed while wasting time at work the other day..

you think the MEK would have had anything to do with it or just the fact that it is a weird brand of aluminum ?
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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I can't answer your question as far as contaminating the weld. But Methyl Ethyl Keytone (MEK) is a very dangerous solvent. I hope you're using all the necessary precautions. It is one one of the fastest acting carcinogen's known to man.

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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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yeah, i know, they have all those msds' on the drums, i was wearing gloves.

thanks for replying, i was beginning to think nobody cared to respond to my threads on here. heh
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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You could use mek to clean the weld area but use denatured alcohol afterwards as mek does leave a residue. The mild acids welding shops sell to clean aluminum work pretty well. Sounds like the metal you were welding may have been a different composition than your filler rod.
I certainly don't know everything about welding but I spent 21 years in the airforce as a machinist /welder and have worked on acft my whole life.
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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Aluminum has to be very clean or it will contaminate easily. It may also be because it's that wierd alloy.

LEAVE THE MEK ALONE!!! That is bad ****. Gloves are not enough, you need latex gloves with rubber gloves over the top, a body suit, and a RESPIRATOR. MEK is extremely toxic. We used it to remove stripper when I first joined the Marine Corps. Shortly thereafter we got rid of the baby **** stripper and got a hot tank, specifically because MEK was outlawed to use.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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they use it in the linings of rail cars, its all over the place at our shop. (in the paint shop anyways)

i know its nasty stuff, they say it gathers in your system over time and may cause allergies and reactions suddenly. i usually stay as far away from that **** as possible but it was the only thing i could find to clean the material off.

anyways i am thinking that the combination of all the factors, cleanliness and filler and weird alloy contributed to my **** welds. i will try again another day when i have free time to drag out the tig and set it up.
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Old Nov 18, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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mek is actually used in some foods. dont know your process you used for cleaning but could have left a film or still had thin layer "floating" around. i dont really know since i've never used it or heard anyone use it like that.
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 06:16 AM
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I'm no expert with aluminum either, but I know I've contaminated welds by using a solvent brush that someone else had used on carbon steel without my knowledge

just a thought
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Old Nov 19, 2004 | 07:53 PM
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MEK is evil. Dont ever start fires with it. Trust me. I was without eyebrows or eyelashes for a few months.
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