Other night, there was this kid was driving a modified Civic hatchback, keeps on following me, wants to race me so bad... after 5 mins it really pisses me off so I couldn't control myself no more.

I was going 70mph on the highway in 5th, then i shifted to 4th, step hard on the gas, RPM goes to 9000, that point he was way behind... But I heard a weird sound, it was my first time hitting pass the redline, i felt bad...

I heard Type R's engine is meant to be beaten. is it true. I using mobile 1 syn oil if that helps.

 

the tach doesn't always read correctly. How is the car running now. Is it possible you just hit the rev limiter?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 01PY0559 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the tach doesn't always read correctly. How is the car running now. Is it possible you just hit the rev limiter?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The car runs normal, I am going to oil change it this weekend. it looks pretty dirty.

 

I've hit the rev limiter many times in autocrosses and what not. That's what it's there for; to stop the engine from running any faster and becoming damaged.

 

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What rpm is the rev limiter set at?

 

i believe it's 9k, right guys?

 

what rev limiter?

I am pretty sure there is no rev limiter, just a fuel cut off. Stock stats say its like 8600 i believe, but as someone else said, it varies because of the tach.

To prove my case of no rev limiter, how do you think guys blow their motor by mis shifting? They hit 11k + and bye bye motor. So if they can hit that high, there would be no rev limiter before that.

 

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Man you have a short temper. Street racing is bad.

 

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That is why i am taking yoga. LOL Beautiful grass, clouds.. nature and hot babes.



Modified by wpsadmin at 7:32 AM 11/11/2004

 

Bouncing the rev limiter is fine. Misshifting can bend valves.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr_dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what rev limiter?

I am pretty sure there is no rev limiter, just a fuel cut off. Stock stats say its like 8600 i believe, but as someone else said, it varies because of the tach.

To prove my case of no rev limiter, how do you think guys blow their motor by mis shifting? They hit 11k + and bye bye motor. So if they can hit that high, there would be no rev limiter before that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true.

There is a rev limiter. However, it only works when you're accelerating within a gear. When you are changing gears (downshifting, whether that's what you intended to do or not), the rev limiter doesn't work. This is the way most cars work, not just the ITR.

 

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Not true.

There is a rev limiter. However, it only works when you're accelerating within a gear. When you are changing gears (downshifting, whether that's what you intended to do or not), the rev limiter doesn't work. This is the way most cars work, not just the ITR.
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No ****? Hmmm, where is the rev limiter set at? You said its the same thing as fuel cutoff? GSR's sit there and bounce it off the limiter, but uh...mine just keeps going...up past 9500...weird...

 

Yeah you fine.

Whats bad is when you try to shift into 3rd from 8k in 2nd and go into 1st. Or when you powershift without having a revlimiter.

 

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You are refering to a mechanical over-rev, no ECU can prevent that.

 

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As others have noted, the tach may not be totally accurate. It works somewhere around 8500-8600 actual RPM, but the tach may indicate as high as 9000 before it kicks in, particularly if you're hard on the gas.

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It sounds like maybe your ECU has been replaced to remove the rev limiter. I would be VERY concerned about that. The rev limiter protects your engine against damage. If you can past 9500 indicated on the tach, you could easily damage your engine. And that can become VERY expensive. (That's why they call those accidental downshifts that result in overrevving the "money shift".)

 

9K everyday in mine when i had it. I didnt spend the money to mod it to not beat it.

 

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Not true.

There is a rev limiter. However, it only works when you're accelerating within a gear. When you are changing gears (downshifting, whether that's what you intended to do or not), the rev limiter doesn't work. This is the way most cars work, not just the ITR.
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Exactly...

The rpm is the mark for the fuel cutoff which will keep the car from accelerating higher in that gear. It can be bypassed with a computer addition (VAFC, FIELD, etc). The sound is very different until you get used to it

Downshifting is a mechanical mistake & cutting fuel certainly wouldn't keep a misshift from screwing the engine.

 

Well, when i am hard on the gas, i've been up near 9500 before i hit the next gear. Granted the tach may be off, but my ECU is stock...So i've been told. Weird. Anything else that could be it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr_dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, when i am hard on the gas, i've been up near 9500 before i hit the next gear. Granted the tach may be off, but my ECU is stock...So i've been told. Weird. Anything else that could be it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm assuming your not the original owner. My bet is your ecu is not stock.
Theres no way the tach could be off that much. Vtec kicks in around 6k for you right?


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Most or all? I'm curious if there are any cars that can stop a mechanical over rev.

 

yup, its right about 6k when i hear it.

 

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Your tach isnt too off then. Your revlimiter should kick in just past redline.

 

So people here are saying that if you bounce of the rev limiter/fuel cutoff it's okay???

I was always under the impression that you are leaning out your cylinders by bouncing off the fuel cut set at 8600rpm.

Maybe I heard wrong??

 

you probably bounced at 9k, when you'll get used to shifting 9k in 4th, you'll be fast enough to use the limiter bounce to shift it into 5th at the right moment, hehehe that is if you like abusive driving

 

if you're racing, i see no point in hitting the rev limiter. only the advanced drivers will notice a difference in the extra 300 rpm. when i autocross, i usually just shift at around 8400k.

 

i do it to hit 120 mph in 4rth without having to switch to 5th and to hear it rip
it's just music to your hears and i never had a problem doing it! i usually shift at 8-8.5k at the track too...