--Newbie ECU crisis.. need some answer to basics
Greetings... recently bought a stock civic HB... I have some extra money laying around... so I'm looking to buy a motor soon for the car... wondering what ecu I should use... I'm totally a newb to this and I don't know anything about honda ecu's or any ecu's for that matter...
I did a number of searches on HT, and saw people talking about p30's and chipped p28's and hondata ecu's and ubertata ecu's... what's the difference between these.. what should I be looking at if I'm planning on buying a b18c5 motor? I did a number of searches but there wasn't a thread that explained the fundementals... seems that most people that post on this forum already know their stuff pretty well.
From what I understand by asking around... I don't really want to use the stock b18c ecu? Friend told me that it was programmed to throw off timing at low rpm's? Is that true? Therefore using a diff ecu can fix this problem and maximize the potential of the motor? Please clue me in... have some really basic questions I want to ask...
1. What is a p28 ecu? Why do people 'chip' it and use it
2. What is a p30/p75/p72/p whatever ecu? What's the advantages/disadvantages
3. Why shouldn't I use the stock type R ecu? Why is it limited in some ways?
4. What are hondata and ubertata ecu's, what are their advantages?
5. What are some other honda ecu's out there that I missed that I could use?
6. Can honda ecu's be tuned and programmed?
7. Any other info that might teach me the basics also welcome.
Sorry for what might seem dumb questions but I need to get this straight before I buy the motor...
I did a number of searches on HT, and saw people talking about p30's and chipped p28's and hondata ecu's and ubertata ecu's... what's the difference between these.. what should I be looking at if I'm planning on buying a b18c5 motor? I did a number of searches but there wasn't a thread that explained the fundementals... seems that most people that post on this forum already know their stuff pretty well.
From what I understand by asking around... I don't really want to use the stock b18c ecu? Friend told me that it was programmed to throw off timing at low rpm's? Is that true? Therefore using a diff ecu can fix this problem and maximize the potential of the motor? Please clue me in... have some really basic questions I want to ask...
1. What is a p28 ecu? Why do people 'chip' it and use it
2. What is a p30/p75/p72/p whatever ecu? What's the advantages/disadvantages
3. Why shouldn't I use the stock type R ecu? Why is it limited in some ways?
4. What are hondata and ubertata ecu's, what are their advantages?
5. What are some other honda ecu's out there that I missed that I could use?
6. Can honda ecu's be tuned and programmed?
7. Any other info that might teach me the basics also welcome.
Sorry for what might seem dumb questions but I need to get this straight before I buy the motor...
Oh I'm sorry.... didn't mean to waste your 'Type R God's' precious space.... I wasn't really sure where to post it... but I'm buying a R motor so I figured I post it here... does it really matter?
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yes it matters.....post in the GDD and u'll get more responses..neeewwwwbieeee
But since im feeling nice I'll help u out.....Get a p28 ecu with hondata..u will need a obd2-1 conversion harness is ur running obd 2 wiring...The more tuning the better
yes it matters.....post in the GDD and u'll get more responses..neeewwwwbieeee
But since im feeling nice I'll help u out.....Get a p28 ecu with hondata..u will need a obd2-1 conversion harness is ur running obd 2 wiring...The more tuning the better
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1. What is a p28 ecu? Why do people 'chip' it and use it
2. What is a p30/p75/p72/p whatever ecu? What's the advantages/disadvantages
3. Why shouldn't I use the stock type R ecu? Why is it limited in some ways?
4. What are hondata and ubertata ecu's, what are their advantages?
5. What are some other honda ecu's out there that I missed that I could use?
6. Can honda ecu's be tuned and programmed?
7. Any other info that might teach me the basics also welcome.
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1) It's from a sohc vtec civic. / no knock sensor.
2) p30=b16a/p75=??/p72 gsr. stock fuel setting.
3) what are you doing. first what yr is your civic. second what yr is the motor.
if your planning to pass smog you may want to get everything stock type r first then slowly work your way up to performance. here in cali the motor has to be same or newer than the car it's going into to pass.
1. What is a p28 ecu? Why do people 'chip' it and use it
2. What is a p30/p75/p72/p whatever ecu? What's the advantages/disadvantages
3. Why shouldn't I use the stock type R ecu? Why is it limited in some ways?
4. What are hondata and ubertata ecu's, what are their advantages?
5. What are some other honda ecu's out there that I missed that I could use?
6. Can honda ecu's be tuned and programmed?
7. Any other info that might teach me the basics also welcome.
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1) It's from a sohc vtec civic. / no knock sensor.
2) p30=b16a/p75=??/p72 gsr. stock fuel setting.
3) what are you doing. first what yr is your civic. second what yr is the motor.
if your planning to pass smog you may want to get everything stock type r first then slowly work your way up to performance. here in cali the motor has to be same or newer than the car it's going into to pass.
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