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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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Default OEM shocks and springs - how to know for sure they are ITR?

I know this has been asked before, but I couldn't find anything using search or in the FAQ..

As many of you know, I've had some ride height issues with my R since putting it together a year ago, mainly that it sits obviously too high.. Here's everything I've verified:

Front:
ITR LCAs, ITR UCAs, knuckles are the same height no matter what integra(but I'm pretty sure they're ITR as well)

Rear:
ITR trailing arms, Upper arm, LCA, and the little toe adustment thing is ITR..

So that basically leaves the shocks/springs as the only culprit.. How can you tell for sure that you have ITR shocks and springs? Do the numbers on the shocks mean anything? My rears are off(fronts will be off tonight/tomorrow) and were marked ST7-R020-M1, with a big Z and a little "8" after it. Below were the numbers 970828. I checked on acuraparts247 and couldn't make much out with what i had..

Overall, it doesn't REALLY matter since I'm putting omnipower coilovers on currently(did the rears last night), but a)this has been driving me insane and i'd like some peace of mind as to what the cause was and b)i'd like to sell these and know for sure they are R components..

Thanks..
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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Default Re: OEM shocks and springs - how to know for sure they are ITR? (mstewar)

shocks wouldn't affect the ride height, would they?

*scratches head*

so the springs seem to be the likely culprit.

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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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I'll post some pics when I get home tonight.
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by El Pollo Diablo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">shocks wouldn't affect the ride height, would they?

*scratches head*

so the springs seem to be the likely culprit.

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well, true, mr. smarty pants.. i'm just in la la land at the moment i guess.. and i did receive this set together, supposedly removed from an R together.. never have separated the spring from the shock.. soo..

thanks b2finity, that would be great.. seeing if yours have the same markings would probably solve the dilemma..
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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Aren't there colored markings on the springs?
purple, blue.. and something else for ITRs right? (goes to search)
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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What colour are the markings on the springs??

Similar thing happened to me. I bought a set of used itr shock/springs at the beg of summer and the front end sat way to high. After some research the shocks were from a itr and the springs were from a gsr.

edit: I was too slow at posting this Chris beat me to it

&lt;-also goes to look for spring colours

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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Mine look SLIGHTLY different. The shocks have stickers with the part number rather than being printed on.
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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my buddy had an R with civic springs on it and that bitch looked like a lift kit
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 12:58 PM
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Mine have stickers too.. white w/ black writing, i was just pointing out da spring colorz.
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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Default Re: OEM shocks and springs - how to know for sure they are ITR? (Chris N)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mine have stickers too.. white w/ black writing, i was just pointing out da spring colorz.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i guess i'll have to wipe mine off to see if the colors are there..

in one way i hope they're wrong, because that will explain everything.. but then they're worthless..
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by People_Mover &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my buddy had an R with civic springs on it and that bitch looked like a lift kit</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats funny because if you put r springs on a civic, it looks lifted too. . .
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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update:

I finally pulled off the front shocks/springs last week.. they're labeled as follows:

Driver's side: 51602-ST7-R010-M1
underneath that: 98 0105
it also has a big R and G8 on either side of the numbers..

Passenger side: 51601-ST7-R020-M1
underbeath that: 98 1226
it also has a big R and G8 on either side of the numbers..

anybody sure they're R shocks/springs? i hope so.. here's a pic if anyone can tell the colors(my colorblind self couldn't tell):
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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Yours appear to be missing the grey mark above the blue/pink ones that Chris posted. But as far as the blue/pink colors they seem to match.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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I'd like to know which part no. is for passenger side, and which one is for drivers :D

For some reason parts places in Oz do not want to give out this information!
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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Part number for ITR spring is:
51401-ST7-R01 SPRING, FR

...according to acuraparts247.com.

GSR is 51401-ST7-911 SPRING, FR.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 03:18 AM
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Well Mark, they are the stock setup that came off my R I assume. My car was of proper "Stock" ride height and they were only on my car for 28k miles. It still boggles my mind why your car sat so high with them?
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Smitdog &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well Mark, they are the stock setup that came off my R I assume. My car was of proper "Stock" ride height and they were only on my car for 28k miles. It still boggles my mind why your car sat so high with them? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah.. me neither.. I was 99% sure they were correct, but wanted a sanity check since I'll probably try to sell them now..

there was always a chance we got them all mixed up during the mad rush to get my car together last year.. I didn't doubt the intention/source, just making sure we didn't screw up..
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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If you just put them on then the car will sit up high. This happens to me all the time when I change tires for AX. The car sits high. Drive around a little and it should settle. Also please make sure that the springs are all the way in the lower perches (you may have to rotate the spring to get it as low as it can go.)
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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they were on the car for 11 months and it sat like a 4x4 for every day of that.. and these had come off Smitdog's R.. never even took the spring and shock apart..

my car = weird.. heh..
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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Do you have adjustable arms on it? If not, what's your camber at?
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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when the OEM suspension was on, it was slightly positive - on OEM upper and lower arms..

i have since put skunk2 uppers, omnipower coilovers, new lower balljoints, new tie rod ends and a 93 civic si front swaybar in.. haven't driven it yet(crap weather), but should be nice and crisp.. and it actually sits normally now..
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 11:44 AM
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I have the stock suspension on with all other stock suspension components and it rides 4x4. Depending on the width of your fingers, I can fit almost 4 fingers under my fender to wheel gap.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 12:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the stock suspension on with all other stock suspension components and it rides 4x4. Depending on the width of your fingers, I can fit almost 4 fingers under my fender to wheel gap. </TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe everything on my first R was just so worn out it rode lower and gave me a skewed frame of reference.. ::

thanks guys!
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