fluid damper
ok so i was looking around i i found this :
http://www.fluidampr.com/honda.htm
i have a daily driven integra that is allmotor. . i have a stock 130k crank pulley, im wondering if this is a good buy to maybe have things run more smoothly and SAFELY and longevity is very important . .
anyway im keeping my a/c and PS for now atleast
http://www.fluidampr.com/honda.htm
i have a daily driven integra that is allmotor. . i have a stock 130k crank pulley, im wondering if this is a good buy to maybe have things run more smoothly and SAFELY and longevity is very important . .
anyway im keeping my a/c and PS for now atleast
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by therealpoorboy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its a very good product. and it will definetly help longevity of bearings.</TD></TR></TABLE>
very good because i spun a bearing twice already
very good because i spun a bearing twice already
An aftermarket dampened crank pulley will do a decent job of reducing harmonics that cause bearings to wear and will also reduce timing scatter at high RPM. A stock pulley is fine on a stock motor. Once you start to modify them though beyond OEM spec HP, it's good idea to get a good crank damper to handle the increased internal stress on the crank and bearings.
NASCAR does not use the fluid damper. They all use ATI's "Super Damper" or the GM Performance brand - which ATI manufactures for GM.
Fluidampr uses a viscios fluid to absorb harmonics, while the ATI unit uses a series of elastomer 'O-rings' wrapped around an inertia weight to absorb harmonic vibrations.
To the observer - these o-ring dampers all look the same, but in reality the o-rings are tuned by using o-rings of various durometers (hardness) to make them more effective then the fluid variety. Over time the fluid can harden and crystylize. While the same holds true for the elastomer type - over time, they too can harden, however the ATI variety is rebuildable and can be overhauled for far less then the cost to replace the entire unit.
They are perfectly safe to use on unmodified motors, however you will not really see any benefit at stock levels.
Depending on what accessories you run off the crank pulley, you can find versions with or without stock drives for the P/S & A/C.
Modified by Tim2179 at 4:24 PM 12/3/2004
NASCAR does not use the fluid damper. They all use ATI's "Super Damper" or the GM Performance brand - which ATI manufactures for GM.
Fluidampr uses a viscios fluid to absorb harmonics, while the ATI unit uses a series of elastomer 'O-rings' wrapped around an inertia weight to absorb harmonic vibrations.
To the observer - these o-ring dampers all look the same, but in reality the o-rings are tuned by using o-rings of various durometers (hardness) to make them more effective then the fluid variety. Over time the fluid can harden and crystylize. While the same holds true for the elastomer type - over time, they too can harden, however the ATI variety is rebuildable and can be overhauled for far less then the cost to replace the entire unit.
They are perfectly safe to use on unmodified motors, however you will not really see any benefit at stock levels.
Depending on what accessories you run off the crank pulley, you can find versions with or without stock drives for the P/S & A/C.
Modified by Tim2179 at 4:24 PM 12/3/2004
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The "other" stuff was originally designed for low rpm desiel motors. Can you say max torque at 1500 rpms and max power and 2500 rpms (talking about the desiel motors).
ATI are run on Cup motors spinning 10k rpms for 500 miles for 2+ hours. Ever hear a SBC run a t 10K? I haven't but I can imagine. Scary
The "other" stuff was originally designed for low rpm desiel motors. Can you say max torque at 1500 rpms and max power and 2500 rpms (talking about the desiel motors).
ATI are run on Cup motors spinning 10k rpms for 500 miles for 2+ hours. Ever hear a SBC run a t 10K? I haven't but I can imagine. Scary
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jason bouchard »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you know how much they run ? ( a/c and ps too) </TD></TR></TABLE>
I can get a pretty good deal on them.
I can get a pretty good deal on them.
Race versions have been sold for a while. The street versions are supposed to be ready by the begining of the year.
These are a true benefit to your motor. Tbone has 250+ dyno pulls on his ATI equipped motor.
These are a true benefit to your motor. Tbone has 250+ dyno pulls on his ATI equipped motor.
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