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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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I just bought a set of 16x7" wheels and had them mounted on some 205/50/16 Fuzion z-rated tires, my stock rear suspension seems to be gettin old I figure and when my system is in or someone is sitting in the rear it will tend to rub in turns going over 25mph or on bumps. Im considering replacing the rear shocks or some method of rolling the fenders from which i've heard because the fenders are only rubbing the top side of the tire and I think just a tighter suspension and a rear strut bar would be capable of fixing this. I was wondering if any of you have any input on this or if it's happened to ya'll. Happy Posting!
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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search function.....o4'ers
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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Is your car lowerd?
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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1) Get the right offset wheels
2) raise your car up
3) add negative camber (you'll be chewing up your tires faster)
4) roll the lip inside your wheel well (do a search on a how-to)
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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The car is stock height. Suspension is stock. And rear tires have like 3" from the fender.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ShoPlayHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The car is stock height. Suspension is stock. And rear tires have like 3" from the fender.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sell the rims you have and get the right offset ones.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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I dont think that selling my rims is an option due to the fact i just got em like not even a week ago. They only have like 250 miles on them. I payed like $280 for the American Eagle Alloy 6-star rims. They weigh like 17lbs. i think. Is it possible to do any suspension modifications that will stiffen up the rear to dramatically reduce the body roll to keep the fenders off the wheels. Something that I can buy now that will help me out like 4 months down the road when i get new rims. Because getting new rims is out of the question. Plus my parents are freakin ****'s when it comes to me spending more money on the car. And it's not like they would know if it had new rear shocks or a strut bar.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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roll your fender
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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I woudl say that first off thats a slightly large tire. The 205-45-16 is closer to your stock size. I agree that I would roll the fenders a bit. What offset are those wheels? I have a 35mm offset on mine and have no problems with rubbing so I can't imagine running anything lower than that. "most" civic wheels are 40-45mm.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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yah, i think you should have bought a 45 series tire as well...espcially if your car is lowered more than 1.8" and you're running 16s...rolling your fender may help you out...
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 03:51 AM
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Thanks. I'll try rolling my fender and see what happens. Do any of ya'll have a link to rolling your fenders? I'll post pics when I'm finished.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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search. there are a few threads about this, as I to needed to know this.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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first of all put the proper size tires on the car 205/40-45/16 and that alone will probably eliminate the tires rubbing in the back. Then before you start rolling anything (fenders) try removing the rubber inner fender lip liners for additional clearance, this should solve your problem. Leave something extreme like fender rolling as a last resort and do it right the first time so you don't run into these problems.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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Your right...but I already bought the beasts so I'm kinda stuck with them. So the best thing to do is to live with them and work around them. Do ya'll know of any coilovers that are stiff and sit stock height so that later on when I get smaller tires like in 4 months i will be able to lower the car? I'm afraid if I take out the rubber fender lip it will cause that bad boy to rub against metal and that would be no good!
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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you can roll your fenders yourself with something like a baseball bat or a pool que. Put it in your fender then roll your car forward or backwards with it in there. If done right it really works good. I had to do it to mine when i lowered it and got a set of azenis.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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i used to have 205/45-16's on my 93 hatch with +42 et slips. with stock suspension, i would rub the back a lot, but lowered on GC's about 2", it woulds actually rub less b/c the springs were a lot stiffer.

what kinda civic do u have? 205/50 is pretty big for a civic
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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50 series and 16's are probably kind of large, if you lower it a little you may have enough negative camber to actually clear the fenders...
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ShoPlayHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your right...but I already bought the beasts so I'm kinda stuck with them. So the best thing to do is to live with them and work around them. Do ya'll know of any coilovers that are stiff and sit stock height so that later on when I get smaller tires like in 4 months i will be able to lower the car? I'm afraid if I take out the rubber fender lip it will cause that bad boy to rub against metal and that would be no good!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then sell the wrong size tires you have and buy the right sized ones you need...problem solved.
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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dude, i was rolling on 205/45/16 and my car is "SLAMMED" street sweeper status and i didn't have rubbing issues in the rear at all. maybe you wanna get 45 series tires, just a thought
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJcoupe1.6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude, i was rolling on 205/45/16 and my car is "SLAMMED" street sweeper status and i didn't have rubbing issues in the rear at all. maybe you wanna get 45 series tires, just a thought </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's probably because the tire size you were using was the right size to begin with so it shouldn't have scuffed at all.
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 04:30 AM
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Use this.... http://www.eastwood.com/shoppi...ller

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Old Nov 5, 2004 | 05:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJcoupe1.6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude, i was rolling on 205/45/16 and my car is "SLAMMED" street sweeper status and i didn't have rubbing issues in the rear at all. maybe you wanna get 45 series tires, just a thought </TD></TR></TABLE>

its because YOU HAD NEGATIVE CAMBER!

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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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If you car has a lot of miles it may be that your shocks are shot. You can replace them but usually that's a little bit of money. You're other option is that you can get a smaller tire. Maybe a 45 series or smaller.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 07:07 AM
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skunk2 coil overs will help a lot and kyb,agx or takico struts and i would suggest the spc rear lower control arms they allow a wider tire in back i run a 42 offset in my hatch lowered 3 inches all around and i dont rub and i have never rolled my fenders and that is with 17" fno1rc's
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