More and more people will go for K20a engine swap instead of B18C and put it on their ITR. Since K20A engine swap becomes more popular in North America, anyone knows that this type of engine swap is also popular in Asia and Japan as well?

Although the K20a engine suppose to be lighter than the B18C engine, if it fits on our ITRs will have any side effects like overall balance, etc? Please advise. Because this new K20a engine is not design for DC2 and the reverse head design plus the 6 speed transmission will cause any long term problems?

 

i dont see any long term problems with this swap. seems like anyother conversion out there.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thaiphob &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont see any long term problems with this swap. seems like anyother conversion out there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

atleast from the photos i've seen, the motor appears to be up against the passenger side frame...

and of course, clearance on the bottom.... i wonder if its possible to fab a relocation kit for oil supply...

 

it does sit close to the passanger side frame rail, but b series motor sit close to the driver side frame rail. i don't think any thing is worng with the swap

 

u r in bc canada? then go to AJR find the answer

 

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More and more people will go for K20a engine swap instead of B18C and put it on their ITR. Since K20A engine swap becomes more popular in North America, anyone knows that this type of engine swap is also popular in Asia and Japan as well? </TD></TR></TABLE>

As more and more people do this kind of swap, the mounts are being changed and perfected, and it's getting easier to do as the parts are being made available and more people are doing the swaps.

I have not seen a swap written of outside North America, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time. Maybe we're just on the cutting edge for a change.

There won't be any balance problems to worry about. The entire package is lighter, overall, than the B motors.

One of the more complicated conversions I've seen was an ITR at Summit Point a couple of weekends ago. There was some extra fabrication and floorboard cutting involved because they wanted to have the K20A2 motor, a supercharger, and the six speed transmission, so they had to find way to set the motor very slightly farther back than all the mounts manufacturers were designing for.

There's a K24 swap that's probably in this forum's first page.

 

This is something I've thought long and hard about doing. Roadracing with torque? Yummy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jason Franza &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is something I've thought long and hard about doing. Roadracing with torque? Yummy.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Like you need to go faster!

 

Always thought about getting a K20 swap put in my car but i am worried about the after effects. Im just waiting it out for people i know to try it out and see what they say

 

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Like you need to go faster! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Jason's not catching the H1 pack leaders...that's probably what he's after.

 

.....I'd be more concerned about consumables - such as axles.

And there are those of us who want to retain the air conditioning.....

Not to mention the b18c5 has proven quite reliable for many of us.....

I'm sure one day, many if not most of us will have the k20 swaps... until that time, we will enjoy being able to purchase axles from autozone, etc.....

 

So if I get a Type-S, I'll have to worry about it being stolen?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rand0m &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So if I get a Type-S, I'll have to worry about it being stolen? </TD></TR></TABLE>


.....yes. The type R owners will finally have their revenge!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

As more and more people do this kind of swap, the mounts are being changed and perfected, and it's getting easier to do as the parts are being made available and more people are doing the swaps.

I have not seen a swap written of outside North America, but I'm sure it's just a matter of time. Maybe we're just on the cutting edge for a change.

There won't be any balance problems to worry about. The entire package is lighter, overall, than the B motors.

One of the more complicated conversions I've seen was an ITR at Summit Point a couple of weekends ago. There was some extra fabrication and floorboard cutting involved because they wanted to have the K20A2 motor, a supercharger, and the six speed transmission, so they had to find way to set the motor very slightly farther back than all the mounts manufacturers were designing for.

There's a K24 swap that's probably in this forum's first page.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Which engine will you pick?

1) K24 TSX engine (More torque)
2) K20A JDM type R engine (Not suitable to run on North America Octane rate)
3) K20Z1 2005 DC5 type S engine (Specs closes to JDM DC5R)

 

i dunno who told yo u that about the JDM ITR k20a i know people running it on 91

 

im in the middle of doin the swap and dyamn its expensive!$!$!$! the down falls ive seen is you have to cut out the pass side factory mount.....p/s i heard cannot be installed b/c of the hood clearence(but i think its possible to still have) a/c has to have custom lines...radiator(rsx..ep3) also have to cut hoels for the shifter and theres just a lot of stuff that has to be cut out to have the swap...oh yeah theres special parts for everything from hasport...more $$$$$$ dyamn im like 2g just in little parts.....but dyamn i rode in a k20r eg and dyamn that thing is fast....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dunno who told yo u that about the JDM ITR k20a i know people running it on 91</TD></TR></TABLE>Yup here's my dyno with with full exhuast and a stock intake. Hondata ITR reflash (untuned no K PRO) with 91 octane. I get 32 mpg.


Dyno compares before and after the Hondata reflash.

 

The looks tons better after the reflash.

 

WOW! I am really starting to lean this way after a friend swaped a RSX-S into his EP3 and spanked my friends ITR!
wonder what kind of times a RSX-R engine in an ITR would run?
&lt;---hoping it becomes affordable enough to get one in the next few years

 

http://aj-racing.com/pages.php...ADC2R

 

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In Japan, the Octane rate usually 97 or above..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuperTwinz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yup here's my dyno with with full exhuast and a stock intake. Hondata ITR reflash (untuned no K PRO) with 91 octane. I get 32 mpg.


Dyno compares before and after the Hondata reflash.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Are you running JDM DC5 type R engine? You run with 91 octane, any problem if you run on JDM DC5R ECU or you need to use Hondata ITR reflash to work with 91 octane?

 

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In Japan, the Octane rate usually 97 or above.. </TD></TR></TABLE>


j00 do realize that octane rating is measured differently in japan, ri?

 

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j00 do realize that octane rating is measured differently in japan, ri?</TD></TR></TABLE>


You mean Japan is using RON instead of Octane?

 

They are both octane ratings, but yeah...RON instead of PON...dunno if j00 did the conversion already