b16 swap for customer, no spark

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 07:46 PM
  #1  
gots_a_sol's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Charles TOWN, WV, USA
Default b16 swap for customer, no spark

im doing a b16 a swap for a customer and its all done, went to start, no spark

http://www.binghamtonlife.com/...3.jpg

i followed those instructions to test the ignitor, on step 7 i have a problem

I have no continuity between the blue wire and ground, i checked for any breaks in the wire up to the gauge cluster, and its fine, so it i have a bad ground somewhere, the valve cover is grounded, the trans is grounded and i now have 2 ground at the thermostat housing, just in case

ive been working this stupid car for about 2 weeks now, customer is getting antsy, wants his car back
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 07:56 PM
  #2  
HatchBox's Avatar
Skoobie no more...
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,832
Likes: 1
From: Va Beach
Default Re: b16 swap for customer, no spark (gots_a_sol)

dont know if this helps or not...
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 10:13 PM
  #3  
gots_a_sol's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Charles TOWN, WV, USA
Default

all those grounds are connected and secure, stupid hondas...

oh yea, the car is a 90 hatch dx
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 10:17 PM
  #4  
HatchBox's Avatar
Skoobie no more...
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,832
Likes: 1
From: Va Beach
Default Re: b16 swap for customer, no spark (gots_a_sol)

no codes?
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 10:19 PM
  #5  
gots_a_sol's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Charles TOWN, WV, USA
Default

i dont think its throwing any, ill have to check again tomorrow when im not about to fall asleep on the keyboard
Reply
Old Oct 30, 2004 | 11:40 PM
  #6  
DieMaster's Avatar
Needs to be About 20% Cooler
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,878
Likes: 1
From: San Bernardino, CA, USA
Default Re: (gots_a_sol)

i had a simalar problem and it turned out to be a bad engine - to - dizzy ground. i took off dizzy, and used a wire brush drill atachment and shined up the metal. never had a problem since.
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 02:15 AM
  #7  
Turbo88hatch's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 142
Likes: 0
From: Hinesville, Georgia, USA
Default Re: b16 swap for customer, no spark (gots_a_sol)

have you checked the ground thats on the thermostat? I had the same prob and it turned out be that one. Good luck
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 10:28 AM
  #8  
gots_a_sol's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Charles TOWN, WV, USA
Default Re: b16 swap for customer, no spark (Turbo88hatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo88hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">have you checked the ground thats on the thermostat? I had the same prob and it turned out be that one. Good luck </TD></TR></TABLE>

i had a ground there already, i ran another ground from there straight to the battery though but it made no difference

ill try taking the dizzy off and doing that

the thing that gets me though, is this motor ran fine in the car it came out of(bought from I have an STD on here)
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 12:01 PM
  #9  
I Have an STD's Avatar
wrenchin'
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,643
Likes: 2
From: Full of shit in NY, USA
Default Re: b16 swap for customer, no spark (gots_a_sol)

thought that was my motor. yeah man, it fired on two cyls the 1st time i statrted it, turns out two injectors were bad. so that motor has 4 good injectors on it now, i replaced all 4. i never had a check light and i NEVER had a prob with the motor not starting. fired up EVERY SINGLE TIME no questions asked. if u need any help let me know. ande should still have my number.


Brett
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 12:51 PM
  #10  
gots_a_sol's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Charles TOWN, WV, USA
Default

i think i bodged the wiring a bit,it sparks when the key is turned to the on position or when its turned off, not when its supposed to

ill mess with it later
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 01:30 PM
  #11  
drussell4801's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 760
Likes: 0
From: Northern, VA, USA
Default Re: b16 swap for customer, no spark (I Have an STD)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I Have an STD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i never had a check light and i NEVER had a prob with the motor not starting. fired up EVERY SINGLE TIME no questions asked. </TD></TR></TABLE>

my motor usually doesn't ask me any questions either

LOL
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 01:57 PM
  #12  
gots_a_sol's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Charles TOWN, WV, USA
Default

i think i had the 2 white wires at the dizzy backwards, it doesnt spark when turning the key on anymore

but alas, it still doesnt spark when turning the engine over, grrr, im running out of **** to try and fix
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 03:50 PM
  #13  
LoSt is BlaCk's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 11,697
Likes: 0
From: Just Drank A 5th of VODKA Dare me to drive, Ca, u.s.
Default Re: (gots_a_sol)

is there paint in the grounds...is that one ground to the starter connected?
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 04:33 PM
  #14  
whizdumb's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 692
Likes: 0
From: Sacramento, CA
Default Re: (LoStMyBoOsT)

My car wouldn't start because of a bad ignition coil even though it tested out fine. Couldn't figure out why it wouldn't start, every thing seemed fine and I followed the troubleshooting to the same thing you are -- bad ground. Did 2 grounds everywhere, then finally took it to a shop. They said it was the coil, replaced it and it fired up right away.
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 04:45 PM
  #15  
RC000E's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,463
Likes: 2
From: I'm everywhere Focker
Default Re: (whizdumb)

dude you f'd up the dual point conversion plain and simple. What harness is on the B16 first of all? You charge people to do swaps and you can't wire cars..damn man another person givin import shops a bad wrap. Man explain how you wired the car and which harness you used.
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 05:04 PM
  #16  
kKdARIAN's Avatar
Vice President/CEO
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,161
Likes: 0
From: TEXAS
Default Re: (RC000E)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude you f'd up the dual point conversion plain and simple. What harness is on the B16 first of all? You charge people to do swaps and you can't wire cars..damn man another person givin import shops a bad wrap. Man explain how you wired the car and which harness you used.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ouch...

good luck on the car bro'... keep us updated'
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 06:59 PM
  #17  
gots_a_sol's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Charles TOWN, WV, USA
Default Re: (RC000E)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RC000E &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude you f'd up the dual point conversion plain and simple. What harness is on the B16 first of all? You charge people to do swaps and you can't wire cars..damn man another person givin import shops a bad wrap. Man explain how you wired the car and which harness you used.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you dont even ******* know me, so dont say ****

its a 90 hatch dx, using the factory dx wiring harness, i used the how-to on 4thgenhatch.com, i went over the wiring twice already and its exactly how every ******* how-to shows

and im not a shop, though i'd like to have one someday, im just some average guy who enjoys working on cars, hondas in particular...having a decently stocked garage next to my house helps too

ill see if i can find a new coil locally and try that out, what kind of cars can i get that from? i dont really work on 4th gens that much so im not sure what other coils will work
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 07:02 PM
  #18  
drussell4801's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 760
Likes: 0
From: Northern, VA, USA
Default Re: (gots_a_sol)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gots_a_sol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you dont even ******* know me, so dont say ****</TD></TR></TABLE>

don't sweat that guy.

RC000E probably hasn't ever pulled a motor out of a car..
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 07:30 PM
  #19  
onePOINTsix's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,262
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in the lower part of, MI, U.S.A
Default Re: (drussell4801)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drussell4801 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">don't sweat that guy.

RC000E probably hasn't ever pulled a motor out of a car.. </TD></TR></TABLE>haha owned yeah best bet might even be to find another dizzy from like a 90-91 Teggie, it could randomly be the damn honda ignigtors, meh my .02
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 07:39 PM
  #20  
I Have an STD's Avatar
wrenchin'
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 3,643
Likes: 2
From: Full of shit in NY, USA
Default Re: (onePOINTsix)

i dont know man, i wouldnt try to find another dizzy, i literally drove the car to where i pulled out the motor. i doubt the dizzy went bad.

Brett
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 07:41 PM
  #21  
onePOINTsix's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,262
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere in the lower part of, MI, U.S.A
Default Re: (I Have an STD)

you never know with honda ignitions man, they die so randomly
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 07:43 PM
  #22  
gots_a_sol's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Charles TOWN, WV, USA
Default

ill swipe one from the junkyard in the next day or so, big toolbox is good for throwing **** in...anybody need some resistor boxes?

and the bitch is, i just recently sold my old b16 dizzy from my sol oh well, **** happens
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 07:50 PM
  #23  
gots_a_sol's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Charles TOWN, WV, USA
Default



still need to strip that ugly *** valve cover
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 08:14 PM
  #24  
Mackenzie's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: mpls, mn, us
Default

ew, nasty valve cover
Reply
Old Oct 31, 2004 | 08:17 PM
  #25  
gots_a_sol's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,782
Likes: 0
From: Charles TOWN, WV, USA
Default Re: (Mackenzie)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mackenzie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ew, nasty valve cover</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats I Have an STD's friends' fault bead blaster will soon come back out of storage, i need to do the valve cover on my sol as well, all the stock **** is chipping off
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:03 AM.