say you were making a triangle out of flat metal bars (1/8th inch thick, 1.5 inchs wide) would you rather weld the corners together butt to butt or weld the bars overlapping each other?

which triangle would be stronger or is a moot point?

 

butt to butt, like an old skoo 70s dance

 

is it because the metal would be pushing against other pieces of metal instead of pushing against the welds?

 

that and it'll make the structure more rigid because there won;t be an offset at the joining points

 

thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by McDade &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
say you were making a triangle out of flat metal bars (1/8th inch thick, 1.5 inchs wide) would you rather weld the corners together butt to butt or weld the bars overlapping each other?

which triangle would be stronger or is a moot point?


</TD></TR></TABLE>i would say overlapping and boxing the weld would be stronger because you don't have to worry about weakness from the HAZ as much. the draw back would be it would be thicker and heavier. this question is best answered depending on what the triangles will be used for.

 

mdm (mcdade domestic market) bling fender braces

 

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if it's for fender braces, it probably doesn't matter, i would go butt to butt for weight savings. import fenders are usually light and is not that heavy of a load.

 

I'm pretty sure he means structural braces on the front, under the fender. Supposed to stiffen up the front rails a little.

 

bingo

j's racing fender brace


stock 2000 civic ex


cardboard mockup

 

Mc just the way you have it in your picture with the
cardboard will be the strongest if you use lap welds.

 

i'll give it a try tomorrow

 

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sorry, wasn't clear on the application. thanks for the correction

 

Whats the point?

Really, someone explain this to me... and not that "its stiffer y0!"

 

its stiffer y0!

 

:middlefinger:

 

you want to know what the point is?

i don't want to spend $200 to see if these things work of not.

i'd rather spend $10 in metal and a few hours of my time.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whats the point?

Really, someone explain this to me... and not that "its stiffer y0!"</TD></TR></TABLE>

supposed to tighten up the front end, something to the affect of a strut bar, but some people say its more noticeable

 

Does anyone have this on their car? If so, what are your thoughts on it? I might just have to fab one of these up

 

it looks like it just prevents a small amount of flex that would come during a high-g turn. if you are going to do that, you would also want to make sure that the subframe is all connected as well or else it wouldn't make much sense to try to prevent body flex on the top half of your car, the less important part, and not be counter-acting it on the bottom half where it would make more of an effect.

 

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GAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

talk about modifying crumple zone properties...


Modified by Sobe_Death at 2:53 PM 10/31/2004

 

to make it a little stronger you should take the angled part that goes from lower R to upper L in your cardboard mock up and make it a little longer and stretch more froward. I plan on just welding in these braces when I do my new fender/paint job this winter. I see no reson to make them bolt in on my $1000 dollar hatch. should cost about $10 as you said