ok ive already assumed high compression is the least bang for the buck, unless some1 will tell me otherwise.

the sitiation is this: i just bought a 2000 b16 and a 91 hb. so im a little short on cash after the labor of the install but have some left. what would be the cheapest for me to do(labor will need to be factored in):
-used turbo kit plus install- how much?
-used sp plus install - how much?
-high compression pistons and whatever else i should get, like cams or whatnot:
for this id like to know about how much i can expect to spend on parts and labor and how much power can be gained from the suggested parts.- plus labor

like i said, ive already assumed that high compression will be expensive and have the least amount of power gains. im either looking for some1 to confirm my assumption or tell me otherwise

 

Quit being a sissy and install you own **** and save a ton of dough. Doing either can vary WILDLY in prices. My motto is if I can't install it I probably shouln't have it on my car b/c I don't know WTF I'm doing to begin with.

 

i dont know how to do much on cars, havent had any hands on experience except for simple ****, like oil, air filter...

i would love to learn, but unfortunately i dont have time right now, as i am trying to build a career and am very busy.

so i know it saves a lot of money amoung other benefits to do the wrenching yourself, but if you can keep in mind i need to pay somebody to do it. i would appreciate some more opinions and experiences with what im asking about.

please include an estimated install price, liek i said, i dont know much about cars and im hoping some of you who does will break it down for me. thanx

 

Like I said it's going to vary WILDLY. I was planning a turbo setup a few weeks ago and I came out to around $3K in parts alone no installation or tuning but that was mostly new/high quality parts.

 

You can run more boost with low compression but will only have power when turbo kicks in..
With high compression it's dangerous to run high boost because of detenation,you'll have power before/after the turbo spools..

Best thing to do is to meet half was between high and low compression..
Get some 9:5:1 pistons

And the labor prices vary so no one can answer that..

But before you do anything..Ask yourself this
how much HP do you want to make??
Is this a daily driver?
How much $$ do u have?

 

lol, i appreciate you guys tryin to help out nubs, but i know all the basics. i have years of experience sitting on the bowl, reading a import mag.
plus ive owned 2 turbo cars and dailyd an fd now.

maybe i should have mentioned. if i go turbo, i would prefer a small ***, fast spooling turbo, because my motor is barely used and i dont want to open her up. i think i would be satisfied at 5 or 6 psi and hoping that much boost wont sacrafice too much engine life

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by L8NightDrifter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol, i appreciate you guys tryin to help out nubs, but i know all the basics. i have years of experience sitting on the bowl, reading a import mag.
plus ive owned 2 turbo cars and dailyd an fd now.

maybe i should have mentioned. if i go turbo, i would prefer a small ***, fast spooling turbo, because my motor is barely used and i dont want to open her up. i think i would be satisfied at 5 or 6 psi and hoping that much boost wont sacrafice too much engine life</TD></TR></TABLE>

A stock b16a will be fine with a small turbo at only 5-6psi..
Dont worry about pistons or cams..no need for that with that kind of boost level
With only 5-6psi you could get away with running a fmu with stock injectors as fuel management..

 

oh, and i dont care to much for the best quality, as long as its not TOO used. this is only a 91 hb winter beater and my #1 money pit is an FD, so im trying to cut costs wherever i can as long as its not junk parts

 

Dont worry about pistons or cams..no need for that with that kind of boost level
With only 5-6psi you could get away with running a fmu with stock injectors as fuel management..


how the f do i quote on this forum? i dont see a quote button like on other forums. anyways i was assuming and hoping that i could use as many stock components as possible. thanx

 

oh yeah i have a new wquestion. some1 told me jdm b16's have higher compression than usdm b16's. is this true? how much of a difference? is it enough of a differnce that the usdm b16 would make a better turbo motor? or is it just a little different?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by L8NightDrifter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh yeah i have a new wquestion. some1 told me jdm b16's have higher compression than usdm b16's. is this true? how much of a difference? is it enough of a differnce that the usdm b16 would make a better turbo motor? or is it just a little different?</TD></TR></TABLE>


88-91 JDM b16 SIR 1-- 10:2 160hp
92-93 JDM B16 XSI-- 10:4 170hp
92-95 JDM B16 SIR 2- 10:4 170hp
USDM B16 -- 10:2 160hp

 

ah pooyi...

what the crap does it mean when the number on the right side of the colin is higher?
is that enough of a difference that will make the usdm b16 stand up to more boost?

 

Not really, if you only plan on boosting 6 PSI max. Jost a used basic turbo kit will probably run 1500-2000K maybe. Check out homemadetubo.com.

 

if you're low on cash then dont do ANYTHING. drive it as is, learn the motor and save up for bigger and better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crx_88_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you're low on cash then dont do ANYTHING. drive it as is, learn the motor and save up for bigger and better.</TD></TR></TABLE>That is the best advice you will EVER get! Please listen to it. Do it right the first time or don't do it at all unless you really really know what you are doing. Otherwise you're going to be one of these guys who posts a "I just blew my engine and I'm outta money" sob story, and we're all going to say we told you so. Just a friendly forewarning.

 

ok like i said, i dont want to save and do it "right" if that means new parts n ****. this is a beater that will need to cut costs. i have other projects that take priority before this one.

keep in mind i dont know hwo to do **** myself except basic **** liek changing oil or tires. so i will be paying a professional to do my motor swap as well as any mods i decide to buy in the future

 

If its a beater then leave it alone..The whole point of a beater is to be reliable and cheap ....not to turbo it and blow it up. .
You say u wanna turbo it and build the motor but then u say u dont wanna spend money on it cuz its a beater..
U cant have it cheap and be reliable...I dont care what anyone says..
Its going to be a lot of money to build it right for the parts and the labor since u cant do **** yourself..


And u say u have other projects to take care before this one but u cant even do anything yourself..
Your one of those guys u see on ebay selling all the project cars they have because they have no idea about cars and what they're gettin themselves into..

Do alot of research before u do anything....
Trust me..You'll thank yourself in the long run

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by L8NightDrifter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what the crap does it mean when the number on the right side of the colin is higher? </TD></TR></TABLE>

he wrote them in wrong.

when he put 10:2 he meant 10.2:1

10:4 = 10.4:1

he was just in a hurry i guess.

 

nitrous oxide is the best $$/hp ratio but it is not reliable at all.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sand1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nitrous oxide is the best $$/hp ratio but it is not reliable at all.
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I don't really know if I'd agree with that, considering the $$ you're saying is so low is $$ that must be respent each time you recharge the bottle.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mrspeaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If its a beater then leave it alone..The whole point of a beater is to be reliable and cheap ....not to turbo it and blow it up. .
You say u wanna turbo it and build the motor but then u say u dont wanna spend money on it cuz its a beater..
U cant have it cheap and be reliable...I dont care what anyone says..
Its going to be a lot of money to build it right for the parts and the labor since u cant do **** yourself..


And u say u have other projects to take care before this one but u cant even do anything yourself..
Your one of those guys u see on ebay selling all the project cars they have because they have no idea about cars and what they're gettin themselves into..

Do alot of research before u do anything....
Trust me..You'll thank yourself in the long run </TD></TR></TABLE>


why the hell cant i have a beater that is reliable and qwick with only 5 or 6 psi or boost? i was told by many many ppl that 5 or 6 psi wont hurt the longevity of the motor by much. many ppl i know have a "nice" car and then a beater thay is still mildly modded and qwick.

and i never said i wanted to build the motor. i lightyl considering it and asking about the costs. and you keep twisting my words. i want to keep costs down. you said that i said i wanted to not soend money on it. of course i would have to spend money to mod it. my point was cutting costs by usuing used, but not shitty parts.

and why cant i have cheap and reliable? what if i finbd a great deal on a turbo kit thats not that used?

and wtf do you think im doing on this forum asking questions? duh, research b4 i actually go thru with it.

it seems you only posted here to bash, and for what reason, wtf i ever say about you. if your not going to be helpful and only came to talk ****. then stfu and get a life. dont post here

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by L8NightDrifter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why cant i have cheap and reliable? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Speed, reliability, price. Choose two.

You can have a cheap, reliable turbo car, it just won't blow everyone out of the water. This isn't your goal, obviously, so put a turbo on it, run 6 lbs with an intercooler, and beat on that. It will be ok as long as you tune it carefully.

There's nothing wrong with keeping costs down. And there's nothing wrong with paying someone to do it. Thats how I make a living.

 

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Speed, reliability, price. Choose two.

You can have a cheap, reliable turbo car, it just won't blow everyone out of the water. This isn't your goal, obviously, so put a turbo on it, run 6 lbs with an intercooler, and beat on that. It will be ok as long as you tune it carefully.

There's nothing wrong with keeping costs down. And there's nothing wrong with paying someone to do it. Thats how I make a living. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ty, this is the kind of response i was hoping for. i was still hoping some1 would tell me how much i can expect to spend on parts and labor for a turbo kit for my car. some guy IM'd me selling a kit for 1100 and another guy for 1500. so how much can i expect to pay for the install?
and how much can i expect to spend for sp and building motor? parts and labor. i am still lightly considering building the motor for high compression IF its not too expensive, but most likely i will just buy a turbo or sp kit if a good as deal comes along

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by L8NightDrifter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


why the hell cant i have a beater that is reliable and qwick with only 5 or 6 psi or boost? i was told by many many ppl that 5 or 6 psi wont hurt the longevity of the motor by much. many ppl i know have a "nice" car and then a beater thay is still mildly modded and qwick.

and i never said i wanted to build the motor. i lightyl considering it and asking about the costs. and you keep twisting my words. i want to keep costs down. you said that i said i wanted to not soend money on it. of course i would have to spend money to mod it. my point was cutting costs by usuing used, but not shitty parts.

and why cant i have cheap and reliable? what if i finbd a great deal on a turbo kit thats not that used?

and wtf do you think im doing on this forum asking questions? duh, research b4 i actually go thru with it.

it seems you only posted here to bash, and for what reason, wtf i ever say about you. if your not going to be helpful and only came to talk ****. then stfu and get a life. dont post here</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you're gonna keep working on cars and be part of the scene, try to be a little less sensitive..

not being rude, just suggesting. You'll enjoy it a lot more if you just let stuff roll off.

MrSpeaker didn't really mean any offense, he was just trying to help probably.

And if he did mean offense, **** em right? Just ignore it instead of being defensive.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drussell4801 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">



MrSpeaker didn't really mean any offense, he was just trying to help probably.

And if he did mean offense, **** em right? Just ignore it instead of being defensive.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nah..Wasnt trying to sound mean..Just telling the truth..
He said its a beater so why turbo it with used parts or build the motor with low quality parts like he wants to do??? Its a waste of time and money..
And also he says he has other project cars to finish so....????????