CRX ESSENTIALS HELP
Alright. I have a CRX. I want to make it look nice and run good. Im going to put a B16 or B18 in it. Im going to try to put more HP in by putting a Cold Air Intake system in it. Also an Exhaust system. As you can see im new to this I donīt know alot. Does the header connect to the exhaust system and does a muffler connect to the end of the exhaust system? What does the cold air intake connect to? With a motor with about 160 HP these things bring it up to like 200 right. What else should I put in it to make make CRX badass. Nothing complicated but something stuff that are essential for a hot looking car that runs crazy but not insane.
ok you are gonna get seriously flamed.
The B16 has 160 hp at the flywheel from what i understand. So by the time all that power gets to the ground you have about 150 or so (just stay with me here)
You need to learn the basics to understand why you'd want a cold air intake, and an exhaust system. The main reason why is it allows for the air/exhaust to move into and out of the engine faster, thus freeing up some HP, not really creating it. With a decent exhaust and an intake you can expect about 160-165 hp.
I knwo this thread is gonna turn on you but if you want to learn the basics i'll be willing to help. Hit me up on yahoo (mr_valentino20032000) or AIM (mwelshiemer)
Oh yeah good luck
The B16 has 160 hp at the flywheel from what i understand. So by the time all that power gets to the ground you have about 150 or so (just stay with me here)
You need to learn the basics to understand why you'd want a cold air intake, and an exhaust system. The main reason why is it allows for the air/exhaust to move into and out of the engine faster, thus freeing up some HP, not really creating it. With a decent exhaust and an intake you can expect about 160-165 hp.
I knwo this thread is gonna turn on you but if you want to learn the basics i'll be willing to help. Hit me up on yahoo (mr_valentino20032000) or AIM (mwelshiemer)
Oh yeah good luck
Does the header connect to the exhaust system and does a muffler connect to the end of the exhaust system? Yes, Header to downpipe to exhaust pipping to catalytic converter to resonator to muffler.
What does the cold air intake connect to? Throttle body & intake manifold.
With a motor with about 160 HP these things bring it up to like 200 right. No, intake and exhaust will add about 15hp if your lucky. Depends on the combination used.
What else should I put in it to make make CRX badass. A turbo, plain and simple.
What does the cold air intake connect to? Throttle body & intake manifold.
With a motor with about 160 HP these things bring it up to like 200 right. No, intake and exhaust will add about 15hp if your lucky. Depends on the combination used.
What else should I put in it to make make CRX badass. A turbo, plain and simple.
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I don't think he is ready for a turbo'd CRX. I don't want to hear about him or another CRX getting hurt.
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I don't think he is ready for a turbo'd CRX. I don't want to hear about him or another CRX getting hurt.
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I don't think he is ready for a turbo'd CRX. I don't want to hear about him or another CRX getting hurt.
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Yeah after looking at his last post, you are right.
I don't think he is ready for a turbo'd CRX. I don't want to hear about him or another CRX getting hurt.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yeah after looking at his last post, you are right.
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man you just not getting it. remember when you used to ask the same question? I need to get started somewhere. Everybody starts off like this. Whats turbo?
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Understandable, just I was learning this back in 98 im a little disconnected from the noobie scene. Asking whats turbo is opening a can of worms, so here a website that can explain it in great detail.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm
Understandable, just I was learning this back in 98 im a little disconnected from the noobie scene. Asking whats turbo is opening a can of worms, so here a website that can explain it in great detail.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm
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oh my god.
oh my god.
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I don't think he is ready for a turbo'd CRX. I don't want to hear about him or another CRX getting hurt.
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tru dat!
I don't think he is ready for a turbo'd CRX. I don't want to hear about him or another CRX getting hurt.
</TD></TR></TABLE>tru dat!
thanks man. So I got the CRX and im going to put a B16 in it wth about 160 HP. Now with the Cold air intake and the exhaust system its gonna get another 15 HP. Then with the turbocharger it will go over 200 hp. So just with 3 things my CRX would be set. or is there anything else I have to put in it for this type of work?
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Well the turbo just isnt a bolt on deal and your done. It also matters how many pounds of boost you are running. 1psi = about 1hp. With an intake, exhaust and turbo with 5-6lbs you could be putting down around 200hp at the fly wheel, but to the wheels your going to lose about 15%-20% of that. More like 185ish to the wheels.
Well the turbo just isnt a bolt on deal and your done. It also matters how many pounds of boost you are running. 1psi = about 1hp. With an intake, exhaust and turbo with 5-6lbs you could be putting down around 200hp at the fly wheel, but to the wheels your going to lose about 15%-20% of that. More like 185ish to the wheels.
since no one on here wants to tell you what a turbo is...
Well first you need to understand the concept of an engine. Its best discribed as a water pump. And you want to get as much "water" through the pump as fast as you can.
What a turbo (turbine= fan) does is force air into the engine. The more air that is fed into an engine, the more fuel it can burn. The more fuel it can burn the more power you have..thus became the saying "there is no replacemnt for displacement" from the dark side. This isn't true, because the F1 honda car has a 1.5 ltr V6, and puts out 1500 HP thanks to......you guessed it a well made/designed turbo charger.
A supercharger does the same thing just more efficent. NOW this is where opinions come in. Almost everyone and their dog on here will tell you turbo is better, and it is and in a way it isn't. A turbo has to spool off your exhaust (think of a water turbine in a dam) so when the exhaust isn't moving too fast the turbo isn't moving fast, and isn't producing boost.
A supercharger is always moving. It stays at a set PSI (boost) and doesn't change. But this is where most honda-techers add their favor. A turbo can be adjusted easy up and down for more or less bost (boost=hp BUT more boost = more fuel usage)
i better stop now before i write up a HUGE page on everything i know about turbo (not too much)
Well first you need to understand the concept of an engine. Its best discribed as a water pump. And you want to get as much "water" through the pump as fast as you can.
What a turbo (turbine= fan) does is force air into the engine. The more air that is fed into an engine, the more fuel it can burn. The more fuel it can burn the more power you have..thus became the saying "there is no replacemnt for displacement" from the dark side. This isn't true, because the F1 honda car has a 1.5 ltr V6, and puts out 1500 HP thanks to......you guessed it a well made/designed turbo charger.
A supercharger does the same thing just more efficent. NOW this is where opinions come in. Almost everyone and their dog on here will tell you turbo is better, and it is and in a way it isn't. A turbo has to spool off your exhaust (think of a water turbine in a dam) so when the exhaust isn't moving too fast the turbo isn't moving fast, and isn't producing boost.
A supercharger is always moving. It stays at a set PSI (boost) and doesn't change. But this is where most honda-techers add their favor. A turbo can be adjusted easy up and down for more or less bost (boost=hp BUT more boost = more fuel usage)
i better stop now before i write up a HUGE page on everything i know about turbo (not too much)
really all's u need to do is just read . i didnt know anything about honda's until i came to this site and read. i read every page on the ef forum and every new post and searched when i needed to. howstuffworks is good for basics too
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drewthomas14 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">really all's u need to do is just read . i didnt know anything about honda's until i came to this site and read. i read every page on the ef forum and every new post and searched when i needed to. howstuffworks is good for basics too
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you and me both
</TD></TR></TABLE>you and me both
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mr_valentino20032000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">since no one on here wants to tell you what a turbo is...
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Dude i showed him the best site to learn about how a turbo works.
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Dude i showed him the best site to learn about how a turbo works.
i know i'm sorry i must have skipped over that, but http://www.howstuffworks.com is AWESOME for everything
BTW i don't think he can post anymore today
BTW i don't think he can post anymore today
wow, im new as well to the honda scene as well(considering i just bought a crx), but damn turbo? im going to silence myself now as i know ill be asking a bunch of dumb questions later on as well
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hehe. thank god this isn't true.
hehe. thank god this isn't true.
A 160 hp b16 from the obd0 era with a 10-15% drivetrain loss will net between 144hp and 136hp at the crank if the motor is truly 160 when you get it. Then adding a Cold air intake with a quality header and exhaust (if your cat isn't clogged up) will add 10-15 hp TOPS. If you just at one then don't expect near the gain. Gains are across the powerband so PEAK gains aren't gonna do you much good unless you race to redline every time you drive. If you cant trouble shoot your car and know how to work on your car well, don't go turbo. It takes someone who can keep an eye on things and is prepared to maintian the car all the time. I have had my b16 turboed for over 18 months, daily driven.
A supercharger does the same thing just more efficent. NOW this is where opinions come in. Almost everyone and their dog on here will tell you turbo is better, and it is and in a way it isn't. A turbo has to spool off your exhaust (think of a water turbine in a dam) so when the exhaust isn't moving too fast the turbo isn't moving fast, and isn't producing boost.
A supercharger is always moving. It stays at a set PSI (boost) and doesn't change. But this is where most honda-techers add their favor. A turbo can be adjusted easy up and down for more or less bost (boost=hp BUT more boost = more fuel usage)
Just remember a supercharger is using engine power to make power. While a turbo uses unused exhaust gases to create power.
A supercharger is always moving. It stays at a set PSI (boost) and doesn't change. But this is where most honda-techers add their favor. A turbo can be adjusted easy up and down for more or less bost (boost=hp BUT more boost = more fuel usage)
Just remember a supercharger is using engine power to make power. While a turbo uses unused exhaust gases to create power.
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well first off yea your headers does eventually connects to your exhaust > here is the sequence: headers > downpipe> cat> >exhaust pipe>resonator>exhaust pipe>muffler
and the cold air intake aka CAI it connects to the intake manifold....
and you got to be freakin new to this scene to think all of this bolt on will make you jump from 160 to 200 instantly.... lmao....
alright noob... here is the how you really find out how much power your car make: "DYNO TESTING" and usually results comes out to WHP (horsepower at the wheels) so if you have 160hp at the crank you will roughly from 145 to 153 to the wheels..and basic bolts only increase by 5-10 hp you got to chance cams to more aggressive onces.. and P&P (port and polish) <damnit i just hate making the long damn abbrebriation longer just to explain> and you got to search for the rest on that...
well first off yea your headers does eventually connects to your exhaust > here is the sequence: headers > downpipe> cat> >exhaust pipe>resonator>exhaust pipe>muffler
and the cold air intake aka CAI it connects to the intake manifold....
and you got to be freakin new to this scene to think all of this bolt on will make you jump from 160 to 200 instantly.... lmao....
alright noob... here is the how you really find out how much power your car make: "DYNO TESTING" and usually results comes out to WHP (horsepower at the wheels) so if you have 160hp at the crank you will roughly from 145 to 153 to the wheels..and basic bolts only increase by 5-10 hp you got to chance cams to more aggressive onces.. and P&P (port and polish) <damnit i just hate making the long damn abbrebriation longer just to explain> and you got to search for the rest on that...





