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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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--wasnt getting to much responce in FI forums, figured yall could help me out

-fully built b18c1

i plan on running 10psi daily and around 18-20psi at the track

*i was going to get a greddy type S but i heard around 12psi the type S starts to leak boost? but with the type R it's said you have to run atleast 15psi and i dont want to run 15psi all the time. can you run a type r with a type s spring and have it not leak boost at higher (18-20) psi?

**also not to be a ricer but does anyone have sound clips on the type R w/ S spring?

***or should i just go with a diff. bov all together? if so, which bov can hold 18-20psi well?
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Just got with a TiAL bov. They work well at low boost and high boost application.

Mind you they don't make a real high pitched whistle noise like the TurboXs RFL, but they get the job done.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just got with a TiAL bov. They work well at low boost and high boost application.

Mind you they don't make a real high pitched whistle noise like the TurboXs RFL, but they get the job done. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the responce, im not looking for the high pitched whistle or anything crazy. anyone have/know where i can get a sound clip of the tial bov?
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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What about the HKS SSQV?
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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also if i plan on running 10psi on the street and 18-20psi at the track which springs should i go with if i get the tial bov?
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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just make sure that the spring is rated higher than the amount of boost you plan to do. for example if u want to do 20psi, just make sure that that bov can be adjusted to hold that much psi. the HKS SSQV can be adjusted to hold higher psi.. i know some of the other ones are able to do this as well.

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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16Drag &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just make sure that the spring is rated higher than the amount of boost you plan to do. for example if u want to do 20psi, just make sure that that bov can be adjusted to hold that much psi. the HKS SSQV can be adjusted to hold higher psi.. i know some of the other ones are able to do this as well.

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thanks man, come on help me out ppl
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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As far as I know, there is only one spring for the TiAL BOV. I only though wastegates were preset to a certian pressure.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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You can adjust them to open up at certain psi. The HKS SSQV does for sure. Just gotta adjust the bolt.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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so what is the limit on a greddy type s?
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackcivic95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what is the limit on a greddy type s?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i heard most of them start to leak boost around 14-15psi
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16Drag &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can adjust them to open up at certain psi. The HKS SSQV does for sure. Just gotta adjust the bolt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I promise you can't on a TiAL.

I'm actually quite curious where you guys find 3 springs for a blow off valve?


This is the TiAL website for the wastegates.
http://www.tialsport.com/wastegates.htm
It talks about different springs, but not on the BOV page.
http://www.tialsport.com/blowoff_valves.htm
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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***anyone have any other suggestions? anyone know the limits on the tial bov? and any suggestions on which spring in the tial bov to run, if im gunna run 10 daily and 18-20 at the track? seems like half the people i talk to say there isnt such thing as a diff. spring u can get and half said there is.... any truth on that OR greddy type R with S spring?
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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not sure about the TIAL one because i dont have it, but i know the HKS you can... reason why they do have it is because if u are running at a significantly lower psi, you'll get compressor surge if u dont adjust the bolt. or if its too low of a psi on the BOV, you'll actually lose boost.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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Im new to hondas but for WRX's im a specialist, so i know a little bout turbos Well, go with the type R bov. Look at it this way, when ur driving daily (10 psi) on the street, are you racing? No, so why do you need the performance from the BOV? you dont. It is possible to let off gas with a turbo car and not pop the BOV. Does this make any sense? hope it does!
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TrizzyDizzy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im new to hondas but for WRX's im a specialist, so i know a little bout turbos Well, go with the type R bov. Look at it this way, when ur driving daily (10 psi) on the street, are you racing? No, so why do you need the performance from the BOV? you dont. It is possible to let off gas with a turbo car and not pop the BOV. Does this make any sense? hope it does!</TD></TR></TABLE>

i kinda get what your saying, but id like one that perorms well in both street/strip.

BUT, can someone please provide a truth to all of this heresy......
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by throwed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">***anyone have any other suggestions? anyone know the limits on the tial bov? and any suggestions on which spring in the tial bov to run, if im gunna run 10 daily and 18-20 at the track? seems like half the people i talk to say there isnt such thing as a diff. spring u can get and half said there is.... any truth on that OR greddy type R with S spring?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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Ok...so waht constitutes street from strip? I always thought of street as economy and daily driving. If street means "street racing" then might as well crank teh boost up if u want to win (not promoting street racing!). So basically that turns it into strip guidlines? And if you are talkin about power to get u in and out of traffic, and BOV wont take or add that much more power, so im 100% positive a turbo'd gsr can pick up and pass the regular redneck in his Z71. lol
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Oh and if the Greddy BOV is anything like my blitz, then its gonan be very hard to take it apart and put a new spring in, lol.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Bottomline is you need to make sure that BOV will not leak under your MAXIMUM amount of boost. IF you are boosting 25psi just make sure it will hold tha tmuch boost. Sucks if your BOV starts leaking around 20psi... you'll have problems getting to 25psi. main function of BOV is to prevent compressor surge and obviously the "PSSSSSSSSSSSSSH!"
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16Drag &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bottomline is you need to make sure that BOV will not leak under your MAXIMUM amount of boost. IF you are boosting 25psi just make sure it will hold tha tmuch boost. Sucks if your BOV starts leaking around 20psi... you'll have problems getting to 25psi. main function of BOV is to prevent compressor surge and obviously the "PSSSSSSSSSSSSSH!"</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly! will the tial hold that much boost w/o leaking??
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 04:07 AM
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But what im saying is...u dont need to worry about compressor surge while "daily" driving. But i do understand, i wish i knew a bit more about these BOV. My friend has an integra with the tial, and hes running 4 psi daily, and 10 at the track. So im not sure if that helps.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 05:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TrizzyDizzy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But what im saying is...u dont need to worry about compressor surge while "daily" driving. But i do understand, i wish i knew a bit more about these BOV. My friend has an integra with the tial, and hes running 4 psi daily, and 10 at the track. So im not sure if that helps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

can your freind make a sound clip?
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