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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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i plan on running 10psi daily and around 18-20psi at the track

*i was going to get a greddy type S but i heard around 12psi the type S starts to leak boost? but with the type R it's said you have to run atleast 15psi and i dont want to run 15psi all the time. can you run a type r with a type s spring and have it not leak boost at higher (18-20) psi?

**also not to be a ricer but does anyone have sound clips on the type R w/ S spring?

***or should i just go with a diff. bov all together? if so, which bov can hold 18-20psi well?


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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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Get a 1G DSM bov. Will hold 20psi stock, 23 psi in crushed form.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Endless &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a 1G DSM bov. Will hold 20psi stock, 23 psi in crushed form. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the reply, anyone else?
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Endless &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a 1G DSM bov. Will hold 20psi stock, 23 psi in crushed form. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have never heard of a stock 1st Gen BOV hold 20 much less 23 psi. Ive heard that its good up untill 15psi "crushed"

I would look in the classifieds and pickup something a little bit nicer for a little bit more. The BOV is one crucial item in any turbo setup as it stops massive amounts of air grenading your turbo...

I have a Greddy Type S, IM only pushing 10 lbs. but I like it.

If I was to go with any other BOV, I would pick up a Tial 50 MM (Im prett sure its 50 MM)

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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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you wanted a sound clip, click on my website link on the bottom, and there's a vid clip of my ITR on the dyno, you should be able to hear the BOV quite distinctly. I have other clips too, if you want.

I can tell you that the Type S is loud enough to scare old people...
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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The 1g dsm bov will hold 18-19lbs STOCK..you could crush it to hold about 23-24lbs, but that's not an ideal thing to do.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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I know ppl running the Type S on 16 +PSI and theyre fine...no such boost leaks..

One runs 20PSI at the track and the other was running 18PSI when i took a ride on his car..
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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***anyone have any other suggestions? anyone know the limits on the tial bov? and any suggestions on which spring in the tial bov to run, if im gunna run 10 daily and 18-20 at the track? seems like half the people i talk to say there isnt such thing as a diff. spring u can get and half said there is.... any truth on that OR greddy type R with S spring?

what other sound clips do you have? i wanna hear the tial one.


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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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i have a tial.. it sounds like a whip being cracked
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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ive heard many descriptions i want a sound clip!! lol, but back to the more important issue at hand!! someone please provide a truth to all of this heresy
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Endless &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a 1G DSM bov. Will hold 20psi stock, 23 psi in crushed form. </TD></TR></TABLE> No it will not hold that much... 1st gens runs 11lbs of boost stock i think it'll work with 14-15
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gofastcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> No it will not hold that much... 1st gens runs 11lbs of boost stock i think it'll work with 14-15</TD></TR></TABLE>

im not really looking into dsm bov's
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gofastcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> No it will not hold that much... 1st gens runs 11lbs of boost stock i think it'll work with 14-15</TD></TR></TABLE>

I drive a DSM, I run 18psi with NO LEAKS AT ALL. I have seen plenty of cars running 21-22psi so you're mistaken.


On to the Greddy valves. The Type R is best used is high boost applications because of the stiff spring in it. I believe the lowest amount of boost you can run with it is 12 or so psi. The Type S on the other hand is what you're looking for. I've worked on and seen plenty of cars that hold 18+ psi on them.

The Tial valve is another great one, so is the HKS SSQV.

Here's a link to various BOV sounds:

http://www.935motorsports.com/bovmedias.htm
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 05:39 AM
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thats the link i was looking for but no tial sound clip
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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i recomend the tial. as far as sound clip i dunno...
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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Im runnin the HKS SSQ and I love it. below about 4 psi you can let off and just make a light hiss if you dont want to be noticed and above 4 or 5 it starts to make a really aggressive whistle. With the design of the SSQ the higher pressure actually pushes the valve closed unlike the greddy so they are very, if not completely resistant to boost leak. This is a site that I have fount to be really helpful.


http://www.935motorsports.com/bovmedias.htm
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Im going to be purchasing a Tial shortly, I only hear good things.
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Old Oct 21, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tegunderpressure &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im going to be purchasing a Tial shortly, I only hear good things.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how much boost you plan on running with it? which spring are you gunna use? (yes there are diff springs 7psi and 11psi, some ppl dont think so)
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 02:41 AM
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i have the tial with 11psi spring and i plan on boosting 26psi.
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 02:57 AM
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yeah i'm runnin the hks ss and its a push pull type so you dont have to worry about it leaking
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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yea the hks super sequential doesnt have leaking problems but ive heard that some people have problems withthem getting stuck...but all the people i know that have em run em without any problems...
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Old Oct 25, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Here's a Tial sound clip:

http://www.maxpowertuning.com/tialbovsound.WMV
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