I just bought a 04 si with the Honda Factory Performance package. I only got a small page that tells me what came on it. It says that the suspension kit is upgraded...but i was wondering if anyone knew if it was a good enough upgrade not to get new suspension. ^^

One more question..... Is there anything that i can add to my car that wont void my warrenty?

 

if you are confident in keeping your warranty, then you may be able to do minimal things, such as suspension upgrade, to sport(not sure if HFP does come out w. sport suspension). you can choose to have a better wheels and tires package. you may be able to use comptech air filter without voiding it, or keep it on the "DL". you can upgrade swaybar kits. add a tie rod. all in all, anticipate the good and the bad from those upgrades.

i recently had grease coming out of a nipped cv boot, they never got **** with me, after the fact i'm riding on coilovers dropped 2.5 at the front with 30k mi. on it. thank god. they replaced it for free and washed my car! woohoo! although the drawback was they had to special order the boot, in turn i didn't get my car back till the next afternoon.

regards

 

Have you taken your car out and gone around some corners yet? I would rather out-drive and master the suspension first. Try upgrading tires, like S-03s.
The HFP is stiffer than stock, but Honda dealerships don't have access to the numbers. That was an upgrade I was considering, but I really just wanted the suspension upgrade.
Does the HFP come with 225/45-17 or 215/45-17? I've read two different things. Mugen runs 225.

 

HFP does come wth 1.25 drop , i have the same vehicle.. i kept all my factory parts. this EP3 dont handle bad with hfp stuff

 

The suspension on it right now is good i was just unsure how good of an up grade it was. The tires are 215/17 with Yoko wrapped on it. I was wondering about an air intake and it voiding my warranty....because i heard that air intakes increase the HP pretty well for the k series engines. Either way i am in love with the new Ep3. I wasn't a hatch back fan until i drove this car. People make fun of me and call my car a mine PT cruiser, a pregnant guppie and a little shoe. They wont take a ride in it with me either because they know it will be a very impressive ride on the in side. This car is so much fun to drive i am very happy with this purchase^^

EP3 Rules!!!

 

Yeah, I love mine too.
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Intake makes a noticeable difference, esp in engine noise. Mine sounds very aggressive once I hit the 4500 rpm mark. AEM CAI. Honda hasn't said anything to me about the warranty even though I've taken it at 15K. Honda here in Fresno uses AEM anyway. They have a glass case of AEM stuff. I bet it doesn't because it's a bolt-on.

 

bor, how much did honda charge you for the hfp kit?

 

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preach it! lol. Halleluia!

 

hey mine had the hfp suspension kit, not the rims tho . the hfp came 1inch or a lil more lowerd from factory . it handeld nicely , but i wanted it lower lol and it hanldes better with the lowering springs . there stiffer
i did lose my warrety for suspenion and drivtrain . you lose both of them .




Modified by alpine192 at 12:33 PM 10/30/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alpine192 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey mine had the hfp suspension kit, not the rims tho . the hfp came 1inch or a lil more lowerd from factory . it handeld nicely , but i wanted it lower lol and it hanldes better with the lowering springs . there stiffer
i did lose my warrety for suspenion and drivtrain . you lose both of them .

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from what i've been hearing/reading i dont think it'll void warranty unless the dealer can prove the malfunction was caused by the aftermarket part

 

The HFP kit was $5,000 (It has the whole underbody spoiler, rear wing, upgraded suspension, valve cover, 17 inch rims with Yoko tires) But the car had been sitting on the lot for a while so them gave me a deal on it. The car was $19,000 with the kit they wanted $24,000 for it but i got it for $21,000 before taxes. So i got the kit for $2,000 ^^ It handles really well but i really want some more power now..... but i have a 7 year 100,000 mile warranty from the dealership (as long as i get my car serviced there) so i guess i really need to talk to the dealership and see what they have to say. I have heard rumors tho as long as its a bolt-on part that is acceptable to Honda and installed but a Honda certified tech that it wont void my warranty but i really have no idea.

On a different note i have a good story for you guys....... There is this kid Tommy that workes at subway next to my work. He has been talking mad shyt to me bout my new car. So i told him that i would take him for a ride and shut him up. He told me that he doesn't need a ride he knows its a "Jap Crap Car" and they all ride the same. I convinced him to take a delivery with me (I delivery Pizza, lots of driving for me^^) I was taking corners at full speed and showing him what my "Jap Crap Car" can really do. He was terrified the whole time, he told me i am crazy for driving my car like that. I replied with no my "Jap Crap Car" allows me to drive like that. Next he still thought his Saab was faster than mine. So we went out and raced them....... he had a x20 or something like that 170hp (i think he said with at turbo) first i stomped he by 2 good car lengths until we hit bout 90 mph then we hit the corners and he slowed way down...... i only down shifted and then plowed through the corners and left him in the dust. I saw him at work the other day and he was bragging to his friends on how bad *** this car really is.

I am slowly getting respect that this car deserves.

I love my car.......Ep3 Rule!!!!

 

I wanted to get my car in white like yours but the black i got had the HFP kit on so i went with the black one.....But i really like your white its really clean looking

 

hey
thanks , i like your story about the kid lol. in my opinon tho paying 5,000 dollars from honda i think is alot tho . you can get so much more for that aftermarket . i tured downed the rest of honda pakeage . i was happy with ths suspenion part of it . body kit and rims i can buy later . the only thing thats good about buying it from honda is its under warrany and stuff . it dose look realy nice . like i was saying , for 5,000 you can get alot more aftermarket . do you have a pic of your car . im shure it looks awsome .

i did change the badges to the euro type-r and red h's and british flag , the works lol. i wanted the euro look , alot of people like it including my car club . some people dont becuse they think you are posing . but i say its for looks only . i always say its a si . people at shows do this also .



Modified by alpine192 at 2:47 PM 10/30/2004

 

I agree 5,000 is a lot for the kit but i got the kit for 2,000 because the car had been sitting on the lot for so long.^^ That and getting the whole kit i could include that into my monthly payment. The 17 inch Honda rims are worth 2,000 without the tires so either way i feel i got a good deal on the car. I have some pics of it but i am having issues downloading them on to the thread. I think i need to use my Buddy's camera because mine is old and shitty. I actually just got a new shift boot in the mail today. I hate that Camry shift boot look alike that is in there. The boot i got is suede with red stitch to match my seats. It looks a lot better in my opinion. I will work on getting you some pics of my car. I like the badges you put on there. If you like the way that it looks then screw anyone else who doesn't.... its not their car Keep it up make that car the way you want it.

The other question i have is..... with the under-body spoiler on my car i am un sure if i can get the stock fog lights to fit. Because the lip covers part of the fog lights housing. So if you have any ideas i would be glad to hear them.

 

hey thanks
well with fog lights . i think the stock ones should work . i have to look at the body kit you got again , i dont remember what it looks like lol. do the fog lights come with there own grill insert ? im going to find your kit and look at it . theres not many people with your honda kit that ive seen . i had to make my own wire harness for my headlights lol, so i should be able to get foglights in your bumper .
where did you get the shift boot from . is it a factiory type-r option or somthing . i cant find a aftermarket shift boot . i do have a **** just like the type-r tho lol.




Modified by alpine192 at 2:48 PM 10/30/2004

 

I bought the shift boot off e-bay. Its a hand made boot that is custom made for your car. I will try to find the seller i bought it from. They also have a leather with red stitch if you want that one. It comes with an e brake cover too but it doesn't look very good from what i could tell. But it looks sweat matches the seats perfectly. But i am having some issues getting my dash board off to get to the shift boot. I set up another thread asking for help. Any ideas?

 

Modding your car depends on the dealer, they can void your warrantly if you come in for suspension repairs when all you have is an intake. I've read about it many times, people not getting warranty work because of some mod they have that isn't even related to the problem, it all depends on your dealer. It's not right, but they still do it.

O yea and alpine, no one here really likes altezza style lights or people who put badging on their car from another trim. You're not fooling anyone and it makes you look like a moron. I'm surprised you haven't been flamed for it yet, anyway your car do what you want.

 

hey
your right . im not fooling anyone . i never said i had the type-r . look 2 posts above yours . i said i do it becuse of car shows (ive seen it done and in the mags) it looks real nice . ive seen alot of people with mugen grills and suff , dose that make them a poser too. its all just for looks . all just jdm products .
you said nobody likes altezza style lights . the 04 si comes stock with that style light . im pretty shure you know what what it looks like .
what do you mean by flamed . do you mean stetting my car on fire ? thats alittle extreem dont ou think. i apreciate you giveing me your opinon on what ive done . thats why my car is here , but you should not say stuff like like that "im not fooling anyone" . to me if i tell people its a type-r then you can say that becuse then i am posing . but im not doing that . i state to whoever asks me me what it is . i tell veryone its the civic si with eruopean badges . thats what it is lol. i want the type-r body kit too . i think it cost about 600.00 . not shure


hey bor i can help you there . i took mine off . in order to change the radio you have too . ill find your thread

 

In ''Alpine192's'' defense...just in case you guys haven't realized getting your car USDM import to full JDM-spec is the standard, however, some people are more into the flashy-side of this...ie...show cars. These type of cars come a dime a dosent, few remain loyal and true to the true JDM-spec. Afterall, they are the people who started all of this. In fact many people follow in Japan's footsteps, so it's not uncommon to see people with wearing the Type-R badges, but it doesn't necessarily make them a ''posuer'' as long as you and i know better and they know better and as long as they're not trying to fool anyone, then who cares? You like what you like and no one can tell you any better, opinions are like a$*holes...everybody's got one. In my opinion JDM is the sh*t, and just as long as imports and people who's into this are still around, people will always follow the popular JDM trends. I rest my case. Car enthusiasts alike, we should all beable to appreciate eachother's tastes,style, or opinions, and not fight over who's right and who is incorrect. This topic is far too controversial to know what's right and what's wrong...find out which formula works for you, and stick with it. GAME OVER!

 

In ''Alpine192's'' defense...just in case you guys haven't realized getting your car USDM import to full JDM-spec is the standard, however, some people are more into the flashy-side of this...ie...show cars. These type of cars come a dime a dosent, few remain loyal and true to the true JDM-spec. Afterall, they are the people who started all of this. In fact many people follow in Japan's footsteps, so it's not uncommon to see people with wearing the Type-R badges, but it doesn't necessarily make them a ''posuer'' as long as you and i know better and they know better and as long as they're not trying to fool anyone, then who cares? You like what you like and no one can tell you any better, opinions are like a$*holes...everybody's got one. In my opinion JDM is the sh*t, and just as long as imports and people who's into this are still around, people will always follow the popular JDM trends. I rest my case. Car enthusiasts alike, we should all beable to appreciate eachother's tastes,style, or opinions, and not fight over who's right and who is incorrect. This topic is far too controversial to know what's right and what's wrong...find out which formula works for you, and stick with it. GAME OVER!

 

honda fogs will not fit with the honda kit on. also a jdm kit will not run you 600 dollars, but cost around 1600-1900 dollars. The usdm replica lip kit can cost around 600 dollars but you still have to get it painted and you will still have the bumper lenses on the car.

 

hey
ive seen the kit for ale at that price . a replica one . i was not talking about a real jdm kit . a after market kit . yes your right about it being a lip and stuff . the one ive see was a front lip side , skirts and rear lip . id have to buy the upper wing seperate . if you have any more info on it would be nice . i always like to learn new info .

thanks

 

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The dealer will try to automatically un-warrantee anything that the lowering springs touch, which is basically anything to do with hubs, shocks, and probably axles.

Most dealers will not automatically un-warrantee drivetrains for lowering springs; however, there could be legitimate issues if the lowering springs are in conjunction with wheels that radically alter the gear ratios. You won't know until it happens, and every dealer will be different in this regard.

And then, if you appeal, you'll discover that every district manager is different. Some of them are performance friendly, some of them are not, but all of them will have preconceived notions about how to tell whether or not you know what you're doing, know what you're talking about, and whether or not you've used quality parts in your modifications.

 

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I've been holding back heh. But I swear every thread he posts in he hi-jacks it with whoring pics of his car. Pretty annoying.

 

usdm replica kit is cheap but the fitment may not be that good. the sideskirts is the part that usually fits bad so hope you have a good body shop.