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Help.... No spark. ICM and Coil are OK

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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 03:12 AM
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I have a 1992 Civic Si and a couple of weeks ago I started it with a plug wire disconnected. It started, but ran rough so I realized it was disconnected within 10 seconds of it starting and turned the car off and replaced wire. Now when I went to start the car back, it would crank with no spark. I checked the coil and ICM and the coil was bad so I replaced it. Now the car still wont start. The coil is getting 12V and has a good ground and the plug wires are ok so I am led to beleive that it is the Cap and rotor. Also when I put my DVOM on the blk/yel wire and the second wire on the cap, and spin the rotor, there is no continutity so I beleive the rotor is not making contact with the cap. Is there a way to check that I am getting power out of the spring on the coil? DO you guys have any idea of what it could be. Its getting cold in Jersey and I need my ride. Any help is appreciated.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 03:23 AM
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Hey Patterson I had something similar, check the resistance between the point where the "spring" contacts the cap and the center conductor (where the rotor makes contact with the cap) It should be a couple of OHM's Like 2.something. Just take off the cap turn it over and put a meter across theese two points. If it shows "OL" Its an open circuit, if there is no resistance, well I really don't know what that will cause either way trash it and get a good quality cap. I had to change two coils 'cause of cheap pep boys replacements
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 03:54 AM
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The rotor never makes contact with the cap anyway - so don't worry about that 'open' measurement.

Why don't you think it could be the igniter - you didn't say you replaced it?

Usually when one goes (coil/igniter), the other goes with it. Its been suggested to replace them as a pair, especially if they have high miles on'em.

And since you have a meter, does the Yel/Grn wire (ICM trigger) pulse while the engine is being cranked over? If yes, and you replaced the coil, I'd really suspect the igniter.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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i just replaced my cap and rotor, damn that was great fun!
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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OK
Today, I replaced the ICM and charged the battery and still no spark. I am going for the cap and rotor combination tomorrow. in the mean time does anyone have any suggestions?
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 04:11 AM
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Does the Yel/Grn wire (ICM trigger wire) pulse while the car is cranking??
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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The yel/grn wire gets a constant 12 V when cranking.

OK. Over the past couple of days, I replaced the cap and rotor and gapped the spark plugs which were way off and lastly, I cleaned all the engine grounds and still it does not want to start. The coil I put on here is a used one which tested as a good coil. I am wondering if anyone has had a coil test good but not work. Also I got my hands on the helms manual and tested the Cyl pos, TDC and Crank angle sensors which were all OK. I also replaced my
P28 with a good P06 but still no luck. Anyone have any Ideas??
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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well when my car did that, i called honda and they told me that it was the ingniter module. They wanter like $220 bucks for it so i check out ebay and bought a whole new dizzy with a three year warranty for $200 shipped overnight. I would check out ebay, but if you have replace the ICM and the cap and rotors and the coil is fine. I would check the spark plug wires.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Checked the wires. All are under 11k ohms
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Well, if the ICM wire isn't triggered, then no spark will ever occur.

Does your fuel pump prime? Is the ECU getting its voltage?
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 02:29 PM
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yes the fuel pump is priming.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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OK today I jumped the DLC and with the key in the on position, the CEL stays on so I am assuming the ECU is bad. Any input?
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 02:59 AM
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checked plugs and they were way to big of a gap but i am still at the drawering board so Please help. I will probably try another coil and if nothing happens, take it to a mechanic.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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