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Emissions legal turbo?? heck yeah! check out these results!

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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Well, with my registration due tomorrow, I went and had a standard smog check, as per California State laws, the first one I had to do since its now 5 years olds. For those of you who don't live here, a car doesn't have to be smogged checked until 5 years from the date of purchase, or when it changes ownership, then its checked every two years.

My car:

00 Civic EX (D16Y8) with 98,500 miles
New cat was installed 18 months ago before the turbo @ 68,000 miles
Edelbrock turbo kit @ 7psi, intalled @ 70,000 miles

Smog Test Results:

15mph (1943 rpm)
%CO2: Measured = 14.7
%O2: Measured = 0
HC (PPM): Max allowed = 64, Average = 9, Measured = 28
%CO: Max allowed = .55, Average = .02, Measured = .03
NO (PPM): Max allowed = 477, Average = 57, Measured = 0


25mph (2007 rpm)
%CO2: Measured = 14.6
%O2: Measured = 0
HC (PPM): Max allowed = 47, Average = 7, Measured = 14
%CO: Max allowed = .54, Average = .03, Measured = .02
NO (PPM): Max allowed = 764, Average = 50, Measured = 0

I was very happy to see those numbers! With how many miles I have put on it with the turbo, and how hard I like to drive, I was worried.

It was also nice to know that the Edelbrock turbo kit will run that clean in the long term!
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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I have to smog every other year. Your lucky

Is the edelbrock CARB legal? or did the tech just not notice it?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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Yes, the kit is CARB E.O. legal. The smog tech just smogged it without even checking it until after he ran it.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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I bet a big part had to do with the mechanic who tuned up your car recently
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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What did he do to get the MPH readings? Did he drive it down the road or what?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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Guess I should clarify that.

The emissions test was done on rollers. So it was a small dyno used to smog test the car under load.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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dyno I think. thats what they do in some places I know for sure.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:58 AM
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HA! Mechanic spends more time on the Teg than the Civic.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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No no, owner cannot afford to pay mechanic enough to work on TEG!!!
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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I do not believe the Eldelbrock turbo is 50 states legal. On the Edelbrock website it says its pending.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CWcivicGrl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do not believe the Eldelbrock turbo is 50 states legal. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CWcivicGrl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do not believe the Eldelbrock turbo is 50 states legal. On the Edelbrock website it says its pending.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you had read it and not skimmed you would have seen they said kit #1500 is 50 state legal.

Kit #1500 = 96 - 00 civic ex
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crashN2u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you had read it and not skimmed you would have seen they said kit #1500 is 50 state legal.

Kit #1500 = 96 - 00 civic ex</TD></TR></TABLE>

Been readin' too many Cosmo's or somethin'.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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wow thats cool that u can pass with a turbo kit
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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OT..my old high school mascot was the Marauders...people always asked us what that meant... lolz
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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I passed IL state emissions with flying colors with a B18A with a modified drag 3 kit, no cat, and hondata untuned. the trick is to go there with expensive wheels.. i went in there on my volks and they didn't put it on the rollers, they just parked it and revved it that way the turbo didn't get to spool, and therefore minimal emissions!
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxxborist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OT..my old high school mascot was the Marauders...people always asked us what that meant... lolz
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LOL...I know the feeling, hence my sig
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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Wow, good stuff! There's hope for us turbo guys yet!
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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IMO on most turbo kits if its done and tuned correctly you will pass. the #1 thing that kills people in CA is the visual inpection, which is only ment to make the government more money.

if your car passes the sniffer test it should be all good, IMO. but when you get bueacrats involved money talks.

to you marauder
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO on most turbo kits if its done and tuned correctly you will pass. the #1 thing that kills people in CA is the visual inpection, which is only ment to make the government more money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, my 96 Integra barely passed emissions with only a short ram intake.

I think that replacing the stock injectors is what kills most emissions with performance upgrades. Using the stock injectors and adding fuel with the secondaries is what really helps the Edelbrock kit be so clean at normal emissions tests. Now, if they did a wide open throttle test.....like they will start doing on 04+ model years!
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