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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Default SuperTech or Portflow Dual Valve Springs and why?

Trying to decide which to go with for my setup which will hopefully be running either skunk 2 stage 2's buddy club spec 3's or jun 3's
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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Crower or Ferrea
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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Please everyone post <U>why</U> you chose who you chose thats the whole point of this thread


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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ferio 95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Please everyone post why you chose who you chose thats the whole point of this thread</TD></TR></TABLE>

Uhhh.. I did.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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no you just said
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Crower or Ferrea </TD></TR></TABLE>
im asking to post why you chose them over the ones listed in the poll, thats all.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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portflow because of this: http://www.importreview.com/re....html
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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no one worthy is on that test no rocket no omniman no supertech. imo the test is useless i know it was done long time ago there weren't much valvesprings offered. in the end it doesnt depend purely on how much pressure it has you know that right.

one of the rocket valvetrain that he offers had mad pressure if thas what you want. but too much pressure can lead to wearage of the camshaft or intense pressure can even snap the cam. why do people run portflow inners and itr outers on some of the best motors out there like the ones omniman built. and it has low sprign pressure? but it could still take the lift of the cam. why did omniman spring pressure at 56 or so lbs on the seat and rocket have other sprign that are a little less imo ideally you want lesser spring pressure that can take the cam and a lighter spring imo. theres probably a lot more factors liek weight n stuff. but correct me if i said anythigh wrong.


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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 08:14 AM
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WrongWD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">portflow because of this: http://www.importreview.com/re....html</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know where they tested this stuff buy we ran Portflow springs with Skunk2 Stage 2s and I tested the springs at 55 lbs of seat pressure at the installed height when I 1st installed them. After about 7 passes down the 1/4 I got rid of them....tested them at 51 lbs of seat pressure when I took them out. This was in a race motor so it had a total equivalent of maybe 4 miles on the motor including dyno, idle time, and 1/4 passes.....and lost that much seat pressure.

Portflow springs are OEM Honda springs. In my opinion they just aren't enough if you plan on revving your motor, missing a couple shifts, or driving it around all the time. 55lbs is not enough. I tested some Skunks and they were 65 lbs.

We run the Ferrea springs and they have worked out great. For a street car the Skunks and the JUNs are sufficient. I suggest Crower...their quality is pretty hard to beat.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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I'd go with Omnipower or Portflow.

Rumors say Omniman himself runs portflow in his daily driver
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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Default Re: SuperTech or Portflow Dual Valve Springs and why? (tommy69)

well this is a little bit helpful but ive only heard two or three people say why they chose who and i have 3 times as many votes
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zad5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no one worthy is on that test no rocket no omniman no supertech[...]</TD></TR></TABLE>

That test was done in 2001 hence none of the current top dawgs are included in that test.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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you should stop bench shopping and choose one, then get your cams and tune your springs for correct coil bind.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HeadPorter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you should stop bench shopping and choose one, then get your cams and tune your springs for correct coil bind.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good point! my personal opinion is to use the same s/r that were made for whatever cams your useing!
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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portflow springs suck... last weekend my motor blow because of valve where floating.... They need to use better springs..theres are out dated!
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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Are you sure you didn't have a flat lobe on your cam? That will cause the same results.
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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ya the lobes are fine i checked on that ....
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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does anyone have any feedback on the supertech springs...(and retainers) ? i got a good deal so i bought a set and wanted to know the strength and wear of them..
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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glad to see people are speaking on this keep it coming
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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Its hard to beat the JG spring kit.
http://www.jgenginedynamics.com/specials

i purchased my JG head from Carlos AKA BUBBA BUILT and have mishifted to 12000 rpm and no problems, no bent valves, Good enough for leslie durst, good enough for me.

http://www.camp1320.com
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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super tech all the way
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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I honestly like the toda cus toda is the only one who has a progressive atyle valve spring and is very high lift cam friendly and is good upto 13mm lift....But the next one i like is supertech and affordable too...........specially for daily driven street car.......................
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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well im looking for best for a street setup doubt i will be running any 13mm lift cams anytime soon
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