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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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that is my new header...can i get some suggestions and pix of 4-1 header fitment w/o getting a new crossmember...i will get one sometime..but the stock one will have to do for now
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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Hmm... I don't know much about header design but something does not seem right about those. Anyhew, for a B-Series motor I think you may have to get a BFH and make the crossmember have some clearance for a 4-1 on a B-series swap.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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well i dunno..but if you look at the primaries....they are shorter, then at the bottom get bigger, they are made to clear a civic crossmember at opposed to an integra..will see when i get em
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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looks like it may work but may harm performance as the change in the flanging
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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Those pics suck, anyways you have to cut the cross member, do a search.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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bling bling!
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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First thing you should do is send that header back. Next thing you should do is search, your choices of headers that will clear an EF with a swap are VERY slim.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spankjelly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First thing you should do is send that header back. Next thing you should do is search, your choices of headers that will clear an EF with a swap are VERY slim.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why should he send it back, in the advertisment it says its a dc s, if that means dc sports then its a decent header.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why should he send it back, in the advertisment it says its a dc s, if that means dc sports then its a decent header.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I could be wrong, but I don't think that's a DC. Plus, what little I know about header design tells me that tappered primaries is not a good idea.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spankjelly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I could be wrong, but I don't think that's a DC. Plus, what little I know about header design tells me that tappered primaries is not a good idea.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think it is either, thats why I said the ad sucks. If its not a dc sports take it back.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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well i will be better than the stock manifold..i have seen plenty of cut crossmembers in EFs...i only paid 118.99 shipped....i have a friend with a GSR that has the hots for it. he has a DC sports 4-2-1, most 4-2-1 will fit, i am also changing to a 4 wire O2 sensor.....
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daidilus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i will be better than the stock manifold..i have seen plenty of cut crossmembers in EFs...i only paid 118.99 shipped....i have a friend with a GSR that has the hots for it. he has a DC sports 4-2-1, most 4-2-1 will fit, i am also changing to a 4 wire O2 sensor.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Only 120, I have seen nice dc sports headers going for 140. Atleast thats how much I payed for mine was, anyways you have to cut up the cross member with a 4-1. with a 4-2-1 you won't.
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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yeah, i just want to see someone's pix..i have not seen them lately....and if all else fails...he will give me 50 bux and his header for mine
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Only 120, I have seen nice dc sports headers going for 140. Atleast thats how much I payed for mine was, anyways you have to cut up the cross member with a 4-1. with a 4-2-1 you won't. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Is this true on all 4-2-1 headers???
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spankjelly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Is this true on all 4-2-1 headers???</TD></TR></TABLE>

absolutely NOT. i have a Vibrant 4-2-1 j spec header and i also have to modify my front crossmember. maybe he should have said most 2 piece 4-2-1 headers fit, but, my 1 piece 4-2-1 primaries don't merge with the secondaries until the base of the header, so, i sits very similar to a 4-1 style header.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16C1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

absolutely NOT. i have a Vibrant 4-2-1 j spec header and i also have to modify my front crossmember. maybe he should have said most 2 piece 4-2-1 headers fit, but, my 1 piece 4-2-1 primaries don't merge with the secondaries until the base of the header, so, i sits very similar to a 4-1 style header. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Most will
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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well guys you are really discouraging...but eh...when i get it, i will see about fitment...and for the price.....i can stand to save up for a jimfab croxxmember.....just put it in the garage and wait!!
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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this one would be an ebay special.....118.99 shipped...got the power gain i wanted, but the noise is kinda obnoxious
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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lol power up to 12 hp!!!!!
ya right more like 3
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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yeah i am sure that is pretty close.....i really needed this header..my **** was hell of restricted!! ITR cams....need something bigger than the B16 manifold
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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Where does it say primaries are tapered?.....................................I don't see it.

There IS a typo in the ad, the picture is a 4-1, NOT a 4-2-1 like is in the text.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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Bah........ITR, still milder than Skunk2 stage 1 cams. I am running M20 Rocket motorsports, milder than stage 2 cams and as much as you want to run with stock compression.

any 4-1 is going to breath better than you will need with ITR cams.
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Old Oct 18, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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meh...well it breaths well for me....i did not loose any power anywhere in the band...just got more over 4G RPMs...i will have to tune more later..
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