hey guys this is my first post on HT. I'm not new to the forums but I finally registered. I've been studying a lot of NA build-ups here and wanted to start one. I'm planning on getting an EG hatch soon. Plannin' on purchasing the motor from hmotorsonline.com Here's my future setup:

Engine B18C (GS-R)
Cold Air Intake
JG 65mm Throttle Body
JG Victor X Intake Manifold (Port Matched)
RC Engineering 550cc Injectors
Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump
AEM Fuel Rail
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
AutoMeter Fuel Pressure Gauge
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
ARP Head Studs
Jun Stage 3 Cam Shafts
Jun Valve Springs
Crower Retainers
Spoon Cam Gears
Spoon 2ply Head Gasket
Endyn Rollerwave 12.8:1 Pistons
Eagle H-Beam Rods
ARP Rod Bolts
Micropolished Crank Shaft
AEM Pulleys
Type-R N1 Crank Pulley
SMSP 4-2-1 Header
2.5" Straight-Piped Exhaust
Magnaflow 14843 Muffler
MSD 6A Ignition
MSD Blaster 2 Coil
Nology Spark Wires
Denso Iridium Spark Plugs
Fluidyne Radiator w/ FAL Fan
P72 ECU/Hondata S200
Transmission S80 LSD
ACT AI4-HDR6 Clutch
ACT Pro-Lite Flywheel

Not really sure on what comp ratio this thing will add up but im not expectin' it to run on pas gas either. This will also be on stock 81mm sleeves. What do you guys think?

 

Look good... Nology wires suck though, IMO.

 

I am NOT trying to be a dick but...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by orig1nalkhmersta &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys this is my first post on HT. I'm not new to the forums but I finally registered. I've been studying a lot of NA build-ups here and wanted to start one. I'm planning on getting an EG hatch soon. Plannin' on purchasing the motor from hmotorsonline.com Here's my future setup:

Engine B18C (GS-R)
Cold Air Intake
JG 65mm Throttle Body
JG Victor X Intake Manifold (Port Matched) just go with itb's since this looks like a serious na setup
RC Engineering 550cc Injectorswhat the hell you need 550's for?
Walbro 255lph Fuel Pumpdont think you need that either
AEM Fuel Rail
AEM Fuel Pressure Regulator
AutoMeter Fuel Pressure Gauge
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasketstick with handa oem gaskets
ARP Head Studs
Jun Stage 3 Cam Shafts
Jun Valve Springs
Crower Retainers
Spoon Cam Gears
Spoon 2ply Head Gasketoem gaskets
Endyn Rollerwave 12.8:1 Pistons
Eagle H-Beam Rodsi wouldnt buy aftermarket rods for NA
ARP Rod Bolts
Micropolished Crank Shaft
AEM Pulleys
Type-R N1 Crank Pulleydo you wanna **** up your crank bearings that bad?
SMSP 4-2-1 Header
2.5" Straight-Piped Exhaust2.5 is to big for na IMO,go w/2.25
Magnaflow 14843 Muffler
MSD 6A Ignition
MSD Blaster 2 Coil
Nology Spark Wires
Denso Iridium Spark Plugs
Fluidyne Radiator w/ FAL Fan
P72 ECU/Hondata S200
Transmission S80 LSD
ACT AI4-HDR6 Clutch
ACT Pro-Lite Flywheel

Not really sure on what comp ratio this thing will add up but im not expectin' it to run on pas gas either. This will also be on stock 81mm sleeves. What do you guys think?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Again i'm not trying to be a dick or play smart,but i think that you should research your setup a little more and get some advice fromother members.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dabig1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get some advice fromother members.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, just not dabig1.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, just not dabig1.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL.. Seriously.

Oh, and welcome to HT, orig1nalkhmersta...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dabig1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Again i'm not trying to be a dick or play smart,but i think that you should research your setup a little more and get some advice fromother members.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Living in utah and will probably have problems with ITB's during winter seasons. RC 550cc injectors and 255lph fuel pump enough or too much for 13+ comp ratio? Getting the Hondata gasket cause it actually lowers intake temps. Getting Spoon gasket to rasie comp. This type of setup on stock rods? Are you sure? **** up my crank bearings with an OEM replacement crank pulley? 2.5" exhaust too big for NA? i thought most people do 2.5" on mild builds. Can anybody tell me whats wrong on this setup and what i should change.

 

1 thing i see wrong is

why not 84mm?

 

i think what some of the guys are trying to say is that some of the parts you listed are not necessary... IMO i thin those injectors are too big... and with the rods... it all depends on high you want to rev, a lot of the stuff you don't really need... i think you should invest some money on something like uberdata or hondata and tuning, i have a similar setup but i didn't use all the stuff you listed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaIntegraR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think you should invest some money on something like uberdata or hondata and tuning</TD></TR></TABLE>

latest working version of uberdata only supports up to 7940 rpms but i am planning on getting the hondata s200 program.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HypeR1004 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1 thing i see wrong is

why not 84mm? </TD></TR></TABLE>

although the larger bore and displacement would be nice, i don't want to send out my block to get it re-sleeved. i wanna stick with stock sleeves. hopefully the stock sleeves will handle this setup?

 

With Hondata and big injectors, you don't really need an adjustable FPR. 550cc injectors and the VictorX intake manifold are overkill for a 1.8 liter engine. You could run the 550's with Hondata and be o.k., but the fueling at lower rpm will be a little trickier. The VictorX will hurt your low and mid range but possibly boost your peak numbers-the AEBS might be a better bet for you. The CTR N1 crank pulley eliminates all but the alternator belt, so the AEM pulleys would be a waste IMO. Not a fan of the NOLOGY wires either.

Overall, it sounds like a decent setup

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b19coupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With Hondata and big injectors, you don't really need an adjustable FPR. 550cc injectors and the VictorX intake manifold are overkill for a 1.8 liter engine. You could run the 550's with Hondata and be o.k., but the fueling at lower rpm will be a little trickier. The VictorX will hurt your low and mid range but possibly boost your peak numbers-the AEBS might be a better bet for you. The CTR N1 crank pulley eliminates all but the alternator belt, so the AEM pulleys would be a waste IMO. Not a fan of the NOLOGY wires either.</TD></TR></TABLE>

So what kind of injectors are best for this setup? I had no clue that the victor x IM will actually hurt low to mid range but i will do some more research on the AEBS IM. What better choices of spark wires are out there? Thanks for the replies guys!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by orig1nalkhmersta &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So what kind of injectors are best for this setup? I had no clue that the victor x IM will actually hurt low to mid range but i will do some more research on the AEBS IM. What better choices of spark wires are out there? Thanks for the replies guys!</TD></TR></TABLE>

VictorX is designed for 8000-10000RPM Range, Get an AEBS intake manifold. I'm running MSD wires, a lot of people here like the NGK wires also. If you're worried about your sleeves, try one of those blockguards. I also think some 440s would be a better choice for a fuel injector...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSVTEC 91 Civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VictorX is designed for 8000-10000RPM Range, Get an AEBS intake manifold. I'm running MSD wires, a lot of people here like the NGK wires also. If you're worried about your sleeves, try one of those blockguards. I also think some 440s would be a better choice for a fuel injector...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I did some research and relized that AEBS doesnt make an IM for the gsr head.

 

Looks like they have them for the GSR now:
http://www.professional-products.com/
Click on the Honda/Acura Special Section at the top.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dabig1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am NOT trying to be a dick but...

Again i'm not trying to be a dick or play smart,but i think that you should research your setup a little more and get some advice fromother members.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Who are you to tell him what he needs???
Then again you could just say the fuel pump and injectors are a little hardcore for the setup.
F up crank bearings with an OEM crank pulley??? This guy has no knoledge about anything..You know what? I think he needs some NOS.


Keep us updated with some #'s

 

yo what up, im in layton. what are planning on putting this motor in, do you already have all the parts you listed.......I have a similar set up and i wanted to interject my feelings.

-I have hondata gasket (great choice) whoever said stick with oem gaskets....(lets just say he can stick with them but when i ask experienced machinists who are recognized highly in the industry for what they do and they recomend a product, i wouldnt lose sleep on taking their advice)

-I have stock ctr crank pulley (like i said stock in japan) good option if eliminating ps/ac

-JG sucks a PHAT DICK (dont ever buy their products, juz my opinion) the best intake manifold bar none is one that not moany are familiar with. http://www.theoldone.com it is made under endyns name and weighs only 4 lbs (constructed of carbon fiber) I am a proud owner, flow kills the skunk and JG....and anyone who tells me otherwise i will laugh at for days.

when is this ride going to be rolling?

 

you really think yer gonna need 550cc's ??

 

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Who are you to tell him what he needs???
Then again you could just say the fuel pump and injectors are a little hardcore for the setup.
F up crank bearings with an OEM crank pulley??? This guy has no knoledge about anything..You know what? I think he needs some NOS.


Keep us updated with some #'s
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wow,settle down a bit.i did say i'm NOT trying to be a dick...
I thought I would give him some advice on some stuff,i never told himwhat to do.I just thought 2.5 is a bit too big,and for an na car 550's and aftermarket fuel pump are a bit too much.I didnt think itb's would be a prob. in utah and i thought oem gaskets were best way to go.as for the pulley,i'm sorry, i just read "pulley" and immedietly jumped into conclusion that is was after market.

i dont think you should be the one to judje me on my car knowledge,because you really dont know my backround and what i know about them.

Again,welcome to ht,and dont jump in the bandwagon of other being a dick online because they get made fun of in real life and the only way for them to express their anger is through e-thugin on ht...

 

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Again,welcome to ht,and dont jump in the bandwagon of other being a dick online because they get made fun of in real life and the only way for them to express their anger is through e-thugin on ht...
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I've been here longer than you, what are you saying welcome for? You obviously not read and assumed again like you just did. Can you read? Or are you are slow? And don't worry i'm not mad, i just feel bad for people getting mal informed, thank you have a nice day.


Post them #'s up!!

 

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I've been here longer than you, what are you saying welcome for? You obviously not read and assumed again like you just did. Can you read? Or are you are slow? And don't worry i'm not mad, i just feel bad for people getting mal informed, thank you have a nice day.


Post them #'s up!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

i wasnt talkin to you,i was talking to the poster.lets not get this thread out of topic.

 

Haha, what a moron, you quoted MY THREAD.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXDelSol! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Haha, what a moron, you quoted MY THREAD. </TD></TR></TABLE>

wtf ru talkin bout?

anyway,i'm not tryin to start a fight over the internet.if you want to fight i live in pittsburgh,pa zip 15106 405 carothers avenue.i weigh 210 been boxin for a 3 yrs. whenever you feel like it knock on my door.i'm sick of ppl tryin to be a dick over the internet,ht would be so much better if there wernt ****** like you on this site.I'm waitin one of your homies to come on this thread and e-thug.

 

EDIT: Let me stop, he's 15. Something needs to be done on an age limit.

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uhhh ok guys thats enough lets stay on the topic. i do think this is just more than a mild NA setup. i want atleast 13 comp or higher. i'll choose something smaller than 550cc's, maybe 440cc's? and for fuel pump well i dont know, i just thought the fuel pump will give more since the engine is wanting more. and the suggestion for 2 1/4 exhaust, i'd only use that on bolt-on setups. i think 2.5" is fine right guys?