what is the tightning order? (valve cover)

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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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can someone please tell me the order of tightning the bolts on the valve cover?? ive searched (no luck) and i cant find it in the manual either oh and its a dohc zc
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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Default Re: what is the tightning order? (hatchinprogress)

I forgot, but just don't tighten too much, those grommets break easily when tightened too much.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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theres no set pattern that i know of, just to a cross pattern and youll be fine. and do what he says too ^
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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thanks guys and to el vap i did tight'en one too much before and i think i gotta fix that today, right now i guess im lucky i got another dohc in my back yard that i get lil stuff from oh and is hand tight good? i know the book says 7lbs but i cant tell 7lbs
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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hand tight? No, it's kinda like when you replace your spark plugs.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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Well, a torque sequence is unecessary and silly, just tighten them evenly, and wrist tight on a small ratchet is enough, those grommets are rubber on the bottom so there no hercules force needed.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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i like to use a 125psi airgun and really torque them bitches down
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Brownjd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i like to use a 125psi airgun and really torque them bitches down </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL.... ..... don't do this.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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I just use a 10 mm nut driver, if I use anything bigger I tend to pop em.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjay8604 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, a torque sequence is unecessary and silly, just tighten them evenly, and wrist tight on a small ratchet is enough, those grommets are rubber on the bottom so there no hercules force needed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

if its so unecessary why is it there......

there is a sequence for a reason.

sorry i don't have a graph...im sure someone does though...give it a few
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by manson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if its so unecessary why is it there......

there is a sequence for a reason.

sorry i don't have a graph...im sure someone does though...give it a few </TD></TR></TABLE>
i like to call that "honda over-engineering." it''s really not that important, but if it makes you happy, just tighten them wrist tight with your hand on the top of the ratchet, and do it in a criss cross pattern
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by manson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if its so unecessary why is it there......

there is a sequence for a reason.

sorry i don't have a graph...im sure someone does though...give it a few </TD></TR></TABLE>
I meant this for the valve cover, of course the cam caps and head bolts, but the valve cover isn't necessary, as long as you tighten even, starting in the middle and going outward is sufficient.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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Default Re: what is the tightning order? (rjay8604)

7in/lbs can be tightend with an average human hand.

Its really really light.

Seriously....I work with torques on nuclear electronics equipment on a daily basis. I have NEVER bothered to torque my valve cover. It's really quite pointless.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Superhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Seriously....I work with torques on nuclear electronics equipment on a daily basis. I have NEVER bothered to torque my valve cover. It's really quite pointless.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well when you say it that... it does seem quite pointless : for the valve cover :
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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I dont own a torque wrench.

Use common sence.

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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HamiltonRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont own a torque wrench.
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I wouldn't go that far....there are a lot of things on my car that I torque....but the valve cover isnt one of them
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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Ive done a headgasket without one. Lets just say i have a 'well calibrated wrist'
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HamiltonRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive done a headgasket without one. Lets just say i have a 'well calibrated wrist' </TD></TR></TABLE>

wow I didnt know you could DO a headgasket. How did work out? lol
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 05:08 AM
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i just asked for the order of tightning order i didnt say i was gonna use a torque wrench in fact i dont even own so thats why i wanted an idea of how much force in needed for 7lb
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Jason, just compress the gasket, you dont need much force. I always work from inside out for the sequence.
Ryan

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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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It is inside out. I usually do them one handed with a ratchet. They will probably break if I applied force with both hands.
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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generally spark plugs get tightened with 3/8 socket two fingers tight. and the valve cover i finger tight
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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You really shouldn't use a torque wrench even if your torque wrench shows 7lbs, most torque wrenches go from 10-150ft/lbs, at the low extreme it isn't very accurate and it is easy to break the studs. Speaking from expierence, now if you have a 5-25ft/lb torque wrench that's a different story.
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90civichbsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres no set pattern that i know of, just to a cross pattern and youll be fine. and do what he says too ^</TD></TR></TABLE>


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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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get an inch# torque wrench if your worried about it. Generally a small 1/4 - 3/8 rachet will be sufice tightened lightly (one handed holding it toward the beginning of the handle).
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