help wih finding a racing series to qualiy
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help wih finding a racing series to qualiy
i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction to a series that allows 240sx's. i ask cuz im going to build my motor soon and i know many organizations are sensitive about turbo applications which was the origional plan. but if i can find a good series to qualify for NA, ill build for that.
ive checkd NASA and SCCA and found nothing yet. any help would be great.thanks
ive checkd NASA and SCCA and found nothing yet. any help would be great.thanks
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Re: help wih finding a racing series to qualiy (JunIntegra)
SCCA:
ITA Nissan 240-SX / S13(89-90) 2530
ITS Nissan 240-SX / S13 (91-94) 2650
ITS Nissan 240-SX / S14 (95-97) 2650
You can also run them in NASA PS classes which mirror IT. All are USDM/NA of coarse.
ITA Nissan 240-SX / S13(89-90) 2530
ITS Nissan 240-SX / S13 (91-94) 2650
ITS Nissan 240-SX / S14 (95-97) 2650
You can also run them in NASA PS classes which mirror IT. All are USDM/NA of coarse.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by www.improvedtouring.com/Classifieds/ »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nissan 240 SX ITA Posted: Sep, 11 2004
89 240SX, current running ITA , limited slip, adj shocks-coil overs and struts, BBS wheels, Color Red, to be really competitve it will need engine mods. It runs great and lots of fun to drive. See at the ARRC or rent to buy at the ARRC, $8900. Fletcher
Team Twenty , Fletcher Williams, teamtwenty@hotmail.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
89 240SX, current running ITA , limited slip, adj shocks-coil overs and struts, BBS wheels, Color Red, to be really competitve it will need engine mods. It runs great and lots of fun to drive. See at the ARRC or rent to buy at the ARRC, $8900. Fletcher
Team Twenty , Fletcher Williams, teamtwenty@hotmail.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sean O’Gorman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are so many reasons why you shouldn't be doing this I don't know where to start. Buy, don't build.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: help wih finding a racing series to qualiy (JunIntegra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunIntegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction to a series that allows 240sx's. i ask cuz im going to build my motor soon and i know many organizations are sensitive about turbo applications which was the origional plan. but if i can find a good series to qualify for NA, ill build for that.
ive checkd NASA and SCCA and found nothing yet. any help would be great.thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here is how you *should* approach this:
1. Decide what you WANT to do - ie: do you want to race OR do you want to build a turbo 240SX?
2. If you decided you want to race then get a rulebook from the group you want to run with - ie: NASA or SCCA
3. Figure out the class you want to run in based on things like COST (and not what you want to do to the car)
4. Build the car according to the rules for the class - DO NOT build a car the way you want and THEN go find a class that it fits in. That will be an exercise in futility.
The BEST thing to do however is do some HPDEs with the car stock or in whatever condition it is in now and after 10 or so events sell it and buy a ready to run racecar at a serious discount. Then proceed that way.
ive checkd NASA and SCCA and found nothing yet. any help would be great.thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here is how you *should* approach this:
1. Decide what you WANT to do - ie: do you want to race OR do you want to build a turbo 240SX?
2. If you decided you want to race then get a rulebook from the group you want to run with - ie: NASA or SCCA
3. Figure out the class you want to run in based on things like COST (and not what you want to do to the car)
4. Build the car according to the rules for the class - DO NOT build a car the way you want and THEN go find a class that it fits in. That will be an exercise in futility.
The BEST thing to do however is do some HPDEs with the car stock or in whatever condition it is in now and after 10 or so events sell it and buy a ready to run racecar at a serious discount. Then proceed that way.
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Re: help wih finding a racing series to qualiy (Evil Drew M)
or if you actually enjoy working on cars, and such you can build your car like me.
but it is cheaper and MOST OF THE TIME filled with less headaches to just buy a car
but it is cheaper and MOST OF THE TIME filled with less headaches to just buy a car
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Re: help wih finding a racing series to qualiy (slammed_93_hatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or if you actually enjoy working on cars, and such you can build your car like me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4. Build the car according to the rules for the class - DO NOT build a car the way you want and THEN go find a class that it fits in. That will be an exercise in futility.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Been drinking tonight?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4. Build the car according to the rules for the class - DO NOT build a car the way you want and THEN go find a class that it fits in. That will be an exercise in futility.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Been drinking tonight?
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Been drinking tonight?
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derrrrrr its thursday ill right!!
Been drinking tonight?
</TD></TR></TABLE>derrrrrr its thursday ill right!!
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Re: help wih finding a racing series to qualiy (Evil Drew M)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Here is how you *should* approach this:
1. Decide what you WANT to do - ie: do you want to race OR do you want to build a turbo 240SX?
2. If you decided you want to race then get a rulebook from the group you want to run with - ie: NASA or SCCA
3. Figure out the class you want to run in based on things like COST (and not what you want to do to the car)
4. Build the car according to the rules for the class - DO NOT build a car the way you want and THEN go find a class that it fits in. That will be an exercise in futility.
The BEST thing to do however is do some HPDEs with the car stock or in whatever condition it is in now and after 10 or so events sell it and buy a ready to run racecar at a serious discount. Then proceed that way.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what you said in numbers 2, 3 and 4 is exactly what i am doing. my car is stock right now and want to find a good class to build towards. but i am not rebuilding the car entirely to race but am rebuilding cuz it needs alot of things being that it has 185k on it. i am going to do many HPDE's asap and need things to be safe and running such as the motor and suspension which are in bad shape.
can you guys post links these classes cuz i cant fns them on the sites.
and any tips on building would be great. thanks guys
Here is how you *should* approach this:
1. Decide what you WANT to do - ie: do you want to race OR do you want to build a turbo 240SX?
2. If you decided you want to race then get a rulebook from the group you want to run with - ie: NASA or SCCA
3. Figure out the class you want to run in based on things like COST (and not what you want to do to the car)
4. Build the car according to the rules for the class - DO NOT build a car the way you want and THEN go find a class that it fits in. That will be an exercise in futility.
The BEST thing to do however is do some HPDEs with the car stock or in whatever condition it is in now and after 10 or so events sell it and buy a ready to run racecar at a serious discount. Then proceed that way.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what you said in numbers 2, 3 and 4 is exactly what i am doing. my car is stock right now and want to find a good class to build towards. but i am not rebuilding the car entirely to race but am rebuilding cuz it needs alot of things being that it has 185k on it. i am going to do many HPDE's asap and need things to be safe and running such as the motor and suspension which are in bad shape.
can you guys post links these classes cuz i cant fns them on the sites.
and any tips on building would be great. thanks guys
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Re: help wih finding a racing series to qualiy (JunIntegra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunIntegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and any tips on building would be great. thanks guys</TD></TR></TABLE>
Build it stock or just do basics:
Throw a set of Koni shocks on with some stiffer springs. Do a BASIC set of MILD swaybars. Get a bolt-in rollbar (optional but recommended), some harnesses (but not without the bar), a second set of wheels with some Falken Azenis on them. Get the rest of the suspension/drivetrain mechanically sound and in good running order.
Just get the motor in good running order stock. Throw on a header and exhaust if you want but keep it basic. IT-based rules don't allow much internal work done to the motor beyond a .040 overbore and balancing/blueprinting/port matching (no more than 1" in).
The key to it all is NOT to build a competitive race car. Build a RELIABLE car with which you can learn in. Keeping it stock or basic/simple is about the best way to keep it reliable.
Build it stock or just do basics:
Throw a set of Koni shocks on with some stiffer springs. Do a BASIC set of MILD swaybars. Get a bolt-in rollbar (optional but recommended), some harnesses (but not without the bar), a second set of wheels with some Falken Azenis on them. Get the rest of the suspension/drivetrain mechanically sound and in good running order.
Just get the motor in good running order stock. Throw on a header and exhaust if you want but keep it basic. IT-based rules don't allow much internal work done to the motor beyond a .040 overbore and balancing/blueprinting/port matching (no more than 1" in).
The key to it all is NOT to build a competitive race car. Build a RELIABLE car with which you can learn in. Keeping it stock or basic/simple is about the best way to keep it reliable.
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Re: help wih finding a racing series to qualiy (Evil Drew M)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Drew M »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Build it stock or just do basics:
Throw a set of Koni shocks on with some stiffer springs. Do a BASIC set of MILD swaybars. Get a bolt-in rollbar (optional but recommended), some harnesses (but not without the bar), a second set of wheels with some Falken Azenis on them. Get the rest of the suspension/drivetrain mechanically sound and in good running order.
Just get the motor in good running order stock. Throw on a header and exhaust if you want but keep it basic. IT-based rules don't allow much internal work done to the motor beyond a .040 overbore and balancing/blueprinting/port matching (no more than 1" in).
The key to it all is NOT to build a competitive race car. Build a RELIABLE car with which you can learn in. Keeping it stock or basic/simple is about the best way to keep it reliable.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks for the tips.keeping it simple is the plan.
Where can i find these IT rules at? and what is the compression limitation?
i do want to build a strong motor with around 11:1 compression.
and again, please post links if you have any
Build it stock or just do basics:
Throw a set of Koni shocks on with some stiffer springs. Do a BASIC set of MILD swaybars. Get a bolt-in rollbar (optional but recommended), some harnesses (but not without the bar), a second set of wheels with some Falken Azenis on them. Get the rest of the suspension/drivetrain mechanically sound and in good running order.
Just get the motor in good running order stock. Throw on a header and exhaust if you want but keep it basic. IT-based rules don't allow much internal work done to the motor beyond a .040 overbore and balancing/blueprinting/port matching (no more than 1" in).
The key to it all is NOT to build a competitive race car. Build a RELIABLE car with which you can learn in. Keeping it stock or basic/simple is about the best way to keep it reliable.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thanks for the tips.keeping it simple is the plan.
Where can i find these IT rules at? and what is the compression limitation?
i do want to build a strong motor with around 11:1 compression.
and again, please post links if you have any
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Go to http://www.nasaproracing.com/rules.html and download the rules. The CCR is the main rule book and then there are supplimental rulebooks for different classes. You want the ones for Pro Sedan.
Like I said though - build BASED on the rules and not based on what you want.
Like I said though - build BASED on the rules and not based on what you want.
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Re: help wih finding a racing series to qualiy (Evil Drew M)
my dam computer wont download it, its pissing me off.
just curuious, why would it be under pro sedan? am i running against sedans?
also, are aftermarket cams and high compression allowed?
just curuious, why would it be under pro sedan? am i running against sedans?
also, are aftermarket cams and high compression allowed?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunIntegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just curuious, why would it be under pro sedan? am i running against sedans?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ugh . . . it is the name of the class. In the PS category you have sub-categories which can have anything from a 4 cylinder Mustang to a Civic. It is just a name.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, are aftermarket cams and high compression allowed?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No.
Ugh . . . it is the name of the class. In the PS category you have sub-categories which can have anything from a 4 cylinder Mustang to a Civic. It is just a name.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, are aftermarket cams and high compression allowed?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No.
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Re: help wih finding a racing series to qualiy (JunIntegra)
IT seems surprisingly restrictive, to people coming in off of the street.
Safety equipment, springs, shocks/struts, bars, most of the interior can come out, header, free exhaust, balance and blueprint engine, +.5 compression ratio, final drive, LSD, aftermarket brake pads/shoes, stainless brake lines, brake cooling ducts, airdam/spoiler in front, stock diameter wheels up to 7" wide...
That's the high points.
The general guideline is, "If it doesn't say you can, then you can't." You need to actually order a rulebook from SCCA (the General Class Rules, GCR) and read it before you spend ANY money. Do not take my word or anyone elses for what is legal.
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Safety equipment, springs, shocks/struts, bars, most of the interior can come out, header, free exhaust, balance and blueprint engine, +.5 compression ratio, final drive, LSD, aftermarket brake pads/shoes, stainless brake lines, brake cooling ducts, airdam/spoiler in front, stock diameter wheels up to 7" wide...
That's the high points.
The general guideline is, "If it doesn't say you can, then you can't." You need to actually order a rulebook from SCCA (the General Class Rules, GCR) and read it before you spend ANY money. Do not take my word or anyone elses for what is legal.
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Re: help wih finding a racing series to qualiy (JunIntegra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunIntegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can you guys post links these classes cuz i cant fns them on the sites.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here are the ones I've found up here in the North East. (I see you are from RI.)
http://www.scda1.com
http://www.nasanortheast.com
http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/events/2004/
http://www.comscc.org
I moved up from the south (last fall), where there are more than enough events on the weekends to keep me happy. I was VERY suprised to discover up here that most HPDE events are during the week. Plan for days off work.
I run a Spec Miata with the SCCA.
Here are the ones I've found up here in the North East. (I see you are from RI.)
http://www.scda1.com
http://www.nasanortheast.com
http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/events/2004/
http://www.comscc.org
I moved up from the south (last fall), where there are more than enough events on the weekends to keep me happy. I was VERY suprised to discover up here that most HPDE events are during the week. Plan for days off work.
I run a Spec Miata with the SCCA.
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If you want to go turbo in SCCA, then you will be in ITE. You need to run a fule cell and a good fire system. In ITE you will be racing some fast cars. Some ITE cars are faster then GT cars, what you should do is go out to an SCCA race and keep an eye out for ITS and ITE class cars.
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well iread the its class rules and it seems pretty good to me.
just wondering, is that the only league/category that there is for 240sx's?
also from what i got, you cant run coilovers in IT, correct?
if so, what are some good alternatives besides koni shocks?
just wondering, is that the only league/category that there is for 240sx's?
also from what i got, you cant run coilovers in IT, correct?
if so, what are some good alternatives besides koni shocks?
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If you do enough searching, you'll see that the majority of the members on this forum are very pro-Koni. I run Tokicos on my MR2, but had I known better in the first place, I would've put down the extra $200 for Konis, especially if I had known I could've had them revalved later.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JunIntegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also from what i got, you cant run coilovers in IT, correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Threaded body shocks are allowed as of the 2005 season.
Threaded body shocks are allowed as of the 2005 season.