Okay... theres a few questions, and a few newbie questions.

Ere we go....

1.
Buy a 2005 RSX Type-S
or
Buy a 2005 Dodge SRT-4

Obviously the SRT-4 is really good if you like going fast....
The RSX has lots of potential though

2.
Are there any Type-R Modifications that you can buy for the 2005 Rsx. I know theres lots of 04' stuff ... like the spoiler, and sills, and headlights, etc etc... but would any of that stuff fit the new 05? If I got the 05 RSX I'd want to get those white Type-R wheels. I think their nice and clean.

3.
Say I DID get the 05' and I found some performance mods.... where the hell would I get them installed? I'm not that great with cars (well.. acutally I might be, but I just haven't tried yet.) and I don't know the first step to jacking a car onto jack stands.

4.
Do you guys get these kind of questions often?

Thanks.
~T.Wong.~

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wanganator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay... theres a few questions, and a few newbie questions.

Ere we go....

1.
Buy a 2005 RSX Type-S
or
Buy a 2005 Dodge SRT-4
RSX-S...More reliability imo

Obviously the SRT-4 is really good if you like going fast....
The RSX has lots of potential though

2.
Are there any Type-R Modifications that you can buy for the 2005 Rsx. I know theres lots of 04' stuff ... like the spoiler, and sills, and headlights, etc etc... but would any of that stuff fit the new 05? If I got the 05 RSX I'd want to get those white Type-R wheels. I think their nice and clean.
You Can always get those type R wheels for your 05. The old headlights won't fit, the are slightly modified.
3.
Say I DID get the 05' and I found some performance mods.... where the hell would I get them installed? I'm not that great with cars (well.. acutally I might be, but I just haven't tried yet.) and I don't know the first step to jacking a car onto jack stands.
Pretty Confident in yourself eh? Are there any performance or auto tuning shops around where you live? Have any friends that can do it for a six pack? If not, my name is Dustin, and I'll be your friend for a six pack!
4.
Do you guys get these kind of questions often?
Yea, a lot. Some people get tired of "New Users" questions being so tautological...but we were all there once.
Thanks.
~T.Wong.~</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

at least you're not asking the newbie questions that everyone asks like "what's a stock rsx-s 1/4 mile time"

1) we can't answer this. u need to take a test drive and see what u like about each. reliability wise, the rsx will be better.

2) since it looks like you want exterior appearance stuff, the 2005 ITR stuff won't be far away. it's just that most of the ITR stuff is for the 2002-2004 ITR.

3) do you feel confident with a socket wrench and screwdriver? are you meticulous with details? it's extremely rewarding to do your own installs on parts. not only do you save on labor but you have a car that you can proudly say "I did it myself"

 

If your looking just for raw power and speed, then go with the SRT-4. Overall a more refined luxury type vehicle with good power and potential, then the RSX-S is nice. The SRT4 also has great potential as well. The SRT4 is also cheaper, your looking at around 20k sticker price opposed to around 24k for the RSX. Do yourself a favor, go drive both and check them out in person.

 

Yeah.
I suppose I'll go take a test drive. I'm driving a 1998 Dodge Neon ATX with 112k+ miles. Soooo.... I have a bit of neon in my blood, but I just think the Type-R is just... well... way cooler.

Someone said that the Type-R is coming soon... whats the news on that? I might just save, and buy that instead.

As far as putting stuff in myself... I think the most I've ever done is hook up my interior neons. But thats all just simple wiring. Mechanics is somthing that I'm just totaly lost on. Like putting in an air intake, and taking a whole bunch of crap out. I'm just scared I'd break somthing. But.... I guess a 112 thousand mile Neon is a good place to start.

I don't really think that exterior is that important. All I'd do is probably change the exhaust (Just for sound... theres not that drastic changes in HP/TQ, I know) the wing, badges, and wheels. Otherwise I'd want to drop a whole ton of mods into the RSX's engine... but like I said... I'm totaly inexperienced.

Oh... heres a newb question.
What the hell is the difference between all the 'B' engines. A kid I work with says he put a b12 into his CRX...
what ? lol.
All I can picture is a World War 2 b-17 plane bombing germans.
But ... that's just me.

 

putting in an air intake is possibly the easiest mod to do. Not very hard, I did my first one on my gsr back in the day and it took me a hour. This was when I had no clue what I was doing.

Anyway I would get a RSX-S (type r will never come again), way nicer and way more reliable IMHO. Them new neons are fast and furious but you'll be pissed when you break something. The ack thang will take a beating and keep on running.

 

Lol, you're pretty good for a newb.

First off I'm a die hard Honda/Acura guy and also work for Acura, but I've got to say I'm pretty impressed with the SRT-4. It'll run 15's on the 1/4 mile with ease completely stock (seen it done before). But to be honest either choice (As long as you get a Type-S if it's an RSX) would be very good choices.

Next, there more than likely will never be another Type-R to come to North America. I can tell you that we most certainly will not have any Type-R models for the next 5 years at the least.

If you can, keep your Neon and just experiment with it. Doing stuff by yourself is the best way to learn, and it's also a ton of fun.

As for your questions to "B" engines: There are different codes on different engines, the RSX has the new Honda engine which is part of the "K" series engine family. Most new models put out by Honda are K-series engines.

However the engine type that preceded the K-series, was the B-series engines. Interga Type-R's (2001 and older) used to have B18C5 engines (in north america, they were known as only B18C in Japan.), Integra GSR's had B18C1's in them, and so on and so forth.

There are also many other engine series, which include the D-series (mostly in older model civics), F-series (mostly in Accords, the S2000 has an F-series engine in it.), the lesser known J-series from the 3.2 TL's from Acura. The list goes on.

Hope this helps you a little bit.

 

Ya that helps a lot.
It might been a B-18... but in anycase, he said it quote "hauls *** like Missy Elliot in a Chinese Buffet". Weird kid ... he had a Pontiac Firebird ( the newer ones ), which he smashed up, and owns an Eclipse GSX, Evo VIII, CRX, and a Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec-V. Oh ... did I mention he is only 17? Yeah . Don't you love living in a rich suburban white county of New Jersey :sarcasm:

So... will Type-R JDM stuff be coming out for the '05 RSX anytime soon? I know the 05 just came out, but... we Asians hustle .
Would the Type-R Square Wing fit on the 05?

 

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ok man a stock srt-4 puts down almost 20hp more to the wheels than a 05 rsx puts out at the crank (almost 230) and will run a flat 14 second 1/4 mile stock. it also costs about 5k less than a rsx-s also. with mopar upgrades your looking at well over 300 wheel h/p.

if you want to go fast in a straight line get the srt-4. downsides is that it handles like **** stock and um its a neon. the rsx WILL be a nicer overall car....

 

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ok man a stock srt-4 puts down almost 20hp more to the wheels than a 05 rsx puts out at the crank (almost 230) and will run a flat 14 second 1/4 mile stock. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude look at my post more carefully, I never said the SRT-4 was the better car. All I said was that it was a pretty good offering from Dodge and that it was a good 1/4 mile car. I also metionned that either car would be a great choice.

Sorry dude but I gotta call BS on you too. I highly doubt that an SRT-4 can put down 14's FLAT, show me some proof. I've seen them run Flat 15's TOTALLY STOCK, never seen one run a 14 flat completely stock and I've seen some pretty good drivers in those things too (I go to the track at least once every other week, most of the time I go once a week...Depends on if I'm working on my car/other peoples cars.)

 

newer ones might be able to with the torsen axle. I've seen them run 14s but not a 14 flat.

 

your on a RSX message board and of course the majority of us will say get an RSX lol.....

but Id go for RSX, its more reliable, looks way better

 

reasonably-speaking, i would take the type-s.

the handling, the reliability, the fit & finish, the aesthetics, and the resale are all better.

straight-line power gets really boring rather quickly.

 

i dont care if you dont belive me i dont have either one of these cars. do the math... lots of power/seriously underrated STOCK QUAIFE lsd its damn fast in a straight line. go look for yourself though as far as the times
heres some info here

http://www.allpar.com/neon/neon-srt-4.html

there was a thread here regarding stock times

http://srtforums.com/forums/fo...&f=56

any magazine out there will tell you they run 5.6 0-60 times and heres a dyno...



and this is from dodge regarding the 04 model

 

so why don't yoo just go test drive either car and see what yoo like . . .
there are plenty of aftermarket parts for both these cars

 

I'd pick RSX-S cause it has a better resale value, and plus...it not a cheater car ( u know, pure engine car, not using steroids such as Turbo and stuffs hehehehehehe)

 

One of my buddies rapes his SRT4 on the road courses and it handles just as well as any other stock front-drive car I've seen.

You people need to get over your ignorant assumptions that the RSX-S (a car that I am intimately familiar with both modified and unmodified) handles any better than other front wheel drive cars, because it really doesn't (RSX-S .86 & SRT4 .86 on a 300-foot skidpad, official dealer specs).

Both cars are easilly upgradeable, the SRT4 is faster and handles just as well and is much cheaper. ****, sounds like an easy decision to me. I love the RSX-S, but if it came down to ME buying one of the two brand new I'd be on the SRT4 like a lesbian on a pink taco.

 

I do and always will think the inside of the SRT-4 looks like the same as the inside of a dodge Caravan. If someone just dropped u inside the car and told u...OK TELL ME WHAT CAR THIS IS, i think u would have a hard time setting the 2 apart...

 

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Aside from the racing seats and gauges and steering wheel and shifter and console, and, and, and...keep digging for **** to sling. God knows you've got something to prove. It's like everyone with an RSX-S has to go out of their way to hate on some dimension of cars that are superior just to validate their purchase.

Come on. The RSX-S is a great car that I love driving, but it's not the best car I could own. It does have some nice seats, but aside from that, the interior isn't that special as compared to any other current offering from Honda or Acura. The console and dash pieces break easilly, the stock headunit takes some effort to upgrade due to extensive integration and in the event that one of the pieces breaks (airbags popping comes to mind since you can't buy a separate cover for them without getting the whole airbag which is $1200 from the dealer) you have to buy some expensive crap to repair it.

 

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You people need to get over your ignorant assumptions that the RSX-S (a car that I am intimately familiar with both modified and unmodified) handles any better than other front wheel drive cars, because it really doesn't (RSX-S .86 & SRT4 .86 on a 300-foot skidpad, official dealer specs).
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this is the kind of response i would expect if you were a magazine bench racer.
imo, all "stock" suspension/handling sucks nuts compared to aftermarket.

when you say road courses, you mean autocross? if autocrossing is your thing, im sure your friend wouldnt have a problem doing real well in one of those. its all about torque and instant power second to handling.

track wise, i havent driven along side a srt-4, like at summit, VIR, watkins, limerock, beaver, etc but all i can say is, how a driver does on the actual track has 80% with skill and 20% with the car.

so instead of saying the SRT-4 is mad vtec-killer fast, how about just saying your friend is an experienced driver, at whatever he does - autox or whatever.

The only 'ignant' person i see here is you, making these wild assumptions based on inaccurate not-real-world magazine benchmarks or saying that your friend is fast in a srt-4, so ergo, the srt-4 &gt; rsx type S. It's really silly to make the comparison for anyone, even if you have been on the track with both cars. (whereas you will probably never be ever seen on track.)

 

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You should know this is more of a function of tires than it is how a car actually "handles".

However, I have yet to see a SRT4 actually handle well, even with suspension upgrades. Even as 'poor' as the RSX setup is, I've seen a few that can hold their own just fine.

 

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BS!

I've instructed in both cars on track, and the SRT does not handle as well. Inside tire wheel spin and torque steer everywhere, it does an ok job, but lack of camber and narrow tires up front with struts really hurts ti.

The RSX handles better (I dont know about the '05) but its still got limitations and I dont think they handle nearly as well as the 94-01 cars. JMO.

 

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BS!

I've instructed in both cars on track, and the SRT does not handle as well. Inside tire wheel spin and torque steer everywhere, it does an ok job, but lack of camber and narrow tires up front with struts really hurts ti.

The RSX handles better (I dont know about the '05) but its still got limitations and I dont think they handle nearly as well as the 94-01 cars. JMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it doesn't handle better because the shocks and sways were crap. I have the JDM full suspension on my car and it handles great. But I noticed that tires play a big role too.

 

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it doesn't handle better because the shocks and sways were crap. I have the JDM full suspension on my car and it handles great. But I noticed that tires play a big role too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i just want to throw out there for anyone else reading this...

JDM !==&gt; BETTER

JDM is overhyped, jdm this jdm that. is the jdm counterpart better than the usdm? depends what application, but no where as better than aftermarket. (ergo, i dont run JDM suspension on my own vehicle.)

 

the rsx is a better chassis, especialy the 05 if everything ive been reading about them is true. both cars in my opinion will need better shock spring combo if you want to race them but the difference is that on the rsx a new spring strut combo will make the car look really really good. on an srt4 it just makes the neon chassis look like crap. granted both can be modified to be good at whatever you want but it all comes down to what the buyer wants to do. the neon easily beat a rsx in the 1/4 and will flat out embarrass a rsx if you take the money you saved on the neon and put it into upgrades. the rsx can also be made fast and will handle real well with very minor upgrades.

of the 2 what would i buy? if the rsx weighed about 400lbs less stock (its over 2800 now for 05) id pick one up but as is honestly id get an srt4. cheap and damn fast... ive had 2 really nice handleing hondas now and if i had to choose at this point ig go for some straight line speed.