okay so I'm looking to buy a suspension for my R and I was thinking about going with Koni yellows and a comptech spring. I was wondering if anyone has this setup and also do I need a camber kit. The springs drop the car 1/2" in the front and 3/4" in the back. any imput would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

 

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what are you trying to do? just lower? autox? hpde?

 

I daily drive it, but I want to start doing autoX and maybe do some track days, but mainly I drive my local canyon.

 

For autox, I'd go with something a bit for aggressive. Maybe a nice coilover setup or something.

 

what coilovers do you recomend?

 

Omnipower. That is the way to go.

 

koni's and gc's are great.

don't know what the big deal is about omnipower... unless they came out with a version that features adjustable rebound and/or compression.

 

You won't need a "camber kit"

 

You may not "need" a camber kit, but if you autox (depening on your class) you may WANT one for more negative camber...

 

If you want to be competitive in autox, think about your class. You can upgrade shocks and stay in stock class, but you have to keep your stock springs. Koni yellows are very popular and effective for stock class ITRs.
But if you already have a bunch of mods that would keep you out of stock, look at coilovers...

 

The springs seem to drop the car even less than 1/2. My friend has some and I never realized it was lowered till I checked it out the springs.

 

I don't really want to lower my car at all but I know that if I upgrade the springs I will lower the ride height. I'm staying away from Omnipower because they aren't adjustable. the Koni's are so that one of the main things I"m looking for. I also want functionality hence I don't want a low ride height. Thanks!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoonitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Omnipower. That is the way to go.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've had them on my car for a little about two weeks now. Ride quality/stiffness/dampening is sweet.

Omnimans&gt; my Buddy Club Race Coilovers/ my old Neuspeed Coilovers.

 

get apex n1-v's

 

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I like my back, I don't want to hurt it... :-)

AS far as the Onmipower, I"m still not sure, I like the adjustibility of the KOni's or other Coilovers.

 

any more tips?

 

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Search the archives in this forum. Look at the FAQ sticky. This topic has been covered more than a few times and in extreme depth. I'd suggest reading and learning why you'd look at any specific suspension instead of just relying on what others may spoon out.

My opinion would be to Not change the stock suspension till you could outdrive the car in stock form.


Just remember, you asked.

 

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Not being able to adjust shock damping isnt a bad thing, if they're properly valved in the first place... but I like Konis, I've got a set on my car now with the stock springs and have used them on others, they're a great shock. You could always just leave the stock springs on.

 

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I like my back, I don't want to hurt it... :-)

AS far as the Onmipower, I"m still not sure, I like the adjustibility of the KOni's or other Coilovers. </TD></TR></TABLE>

OMNIPOWER is coming out with the adjustable shocks next year which will be interchangable ... plus do you even know what your doing when adjusting shocks and how the car will react to the new setting... if your not an experienced person like that then dont buy the koni's just cause you can ADJUST them, lots of people will adjust them thinking they know what there doing and it actually does nothing as far as improving the cars ability... if you know what your doign then go for it.

The omnipower system is also designed to work together .. IE. the spring and shock, so the performance is as good or better than most gc/koni setup's

koni/ gc is not designed to work together ... however they do work good together

basically is personal choice... as long as you get a decent coilover that will do what you need it to do .. then your fine... remember there will always be a
BETTER SET-UP out there. just do you.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikestypeRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OMNIPOWER is coming out with the adjustable shocks next year which will be interchangable ... plus do you even know what your doing when adjusting shocks and how the car will react to the new setting... if your not an experienced person like that then dont buy the koni's just cause you can ADJUST them, lots of people will adjust them thinking they know what there doing and it actually does nothing as far as improving the cars ability... if you know what your doign then go for it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, if you actually track your car, and are at the point where your driving is consistant, you can make adjustments and see if it helped or hurt. Having non-adjustable shocks is like leaving your tires at 32psi all around and thinking that's perfectly ok.

 

Actually you are wrong Skyec. The coilovers from Omnipower are perfectly balanced. Meaning no need to fiddle around with them. Dampening adjustability for these cheaper coilovers won't do any good. Adjustability only helps when you know a lot about suspension tuning. If you don't you more than likely are making your car handle worse.

Dampening adjustability is just a sale point for companies. It's like saying our product has more features. Whether or not those features help or not is usually not looked at.

And besides that, if you are really tracking the car, then you should be doing cornerweighting, in which case you would be able to make the car completly balanced. But most people do not. They just think that screwing around with some ***** is suspension tuning. I don't even know why i bother anymore.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoonitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Adjustability only helps when you know a lot about suspension tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Or if you're an experienced driver in competitive racing, track events or autocross that cares to fine tune their cars handling for different track conditions IE rain, cold, heat, etc.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you don't you more than likely are making your car handle worse.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This many times is true for less experieced guys and especially with the "entry level adjustable coilover suspensions".

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dampening adjustability is just a sale point for companies.</TD></TR></TABLE> For the entry level setups this is true.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's like saying our product has more features. Whether or not those features help or not is usually not looked at.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bandwagons are bandwagons and trends are not easily broken.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And besides that, if you are really tracking the car, then you should be doing cornerweighting, in which case you would be able to make the car completly balanced.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Which should be done regardless of if your tracking or competing in the car. Truth be known, you can even corner weight and adjust a completely stock R's suspension with shims. But it's not neccessary.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But most people do not. They just think that screwing around with some ***** is suspension tuning.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is also correct as well as the guys that really just want the lowered "look" and think they'll be screwing around raising and lowering the car all the time.

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Give me a break

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoonitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually you are wrong Skyec. The coilovers from Omnipower are perfectly balanced. Meaning no need to fiddle around with them. Dampening adjustability for these cheaper coilovers won't do any good. Adjustability only helps when you know a lot about suspension tuning. If you don't you more than likely are making your car handle worse.

Dampening adjustability is just a sale point for companies. It's like saying our product has more features. Whether or not those features help or not is usually not looked at.

And besides that, if you are really tracking the car, then you should be doing cornerweighting, in which case you would be able to make the car completly balanced. But most people do not. They just think that screwing around with some ***** is suspension tuning. I don't even know why i bother anymore. </TD></TR></TABLE>

holy crap, you really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

anyone that thinks any suspension is "perfect" out of the box....

and corner balancing does just that... balances the corner weights... what does that have to do with tuning shocks for how you want the car to handle? balanced or not, there is a huge difference in shock settings.

i know. my car is corner balanced and ive tuned my shocks at autox's before... anyway....

im done with this thread.

 

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Omnimans&gt; my Buddy Club Race Coilovers....</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you don't mind, I'd like to know the spring rates of the Buddy Clubs that you didn't like, and the spring rates of the Omnipower that you like more. Thanks.