just as the topic states, was wondering who has experience with pulley's and cams on the ls motor and what would be the best application. Or what is the most popular application for this motor. I had a problem finding cams, because most of them are made for the vtec motors.

 

go with a custom grind cams,thats waht my friend has on his ls,and pullies im not sure

 

Well since the guy above you was zero help, I might as well give you a hand. Crower makes some different profile cams for the B18a/b, I'd give them a look and see if what they have fits what you are looking for. Also what exactly are you looking for in the way of cams? Are staying N/A or going F/I? A little info on your setup and goals will help others help you.

Brian

 

well im going to stay n/a on this setup. probably swap to a h22a later though but i want some more power for the time being and i think cams, pulley's and headers .. intake will give me a lil more power. i would like to beat those b16's they always pass me in the topend at the track it sucks.

 

bump

 

B16 stock pistons and rings $200
Crower 404 or 405 cams $400-$600
AEM cam gears $200
Tuning $200-$500

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b16 pistons wont work becuz the bore is different am i wrong and. what kind of power gains do u think i will get with those changes.

 

B16 pistons are 81 mm just like the B18c,B18a or b, B17

They fit trust me

Your c/r will be around 11.1 : 1
With 404's and a lot of tuning and the regular bot ons ( cam gears, valve springs, retainers, intake, exhaust )
Should see around 180 to the ground ( give or take a little )

<U>READ THE LINKS I GAVE YOU !!!</U>

 

get crower cams and skunk2 cam gears..crower pulls really hard

 

skunk 2 i cant find ls cams made by skunk 2 only made for vtec motors.

 

He said Cam Gears

Get a good set of cam gears and some 404's tuned and have fun .

 

y dont u just get a vtec head on that b18b block???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D21X &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">y dont u just get a vtec head on that b18b block??? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Everyone says that... yay for 1800rpm of VTEC (I'm not 100% sure when vtec kicks in, i've never touched the stuff)! Or spin it to 8500 like the typical LS/VTEC moron will do and wonder why it blows up so well...


Modified by Mike C at 5:14 PM 10/6/2004

 

toda shafts, some cam gears and tune

 

same thing with the cam gears i cant find them from skunk2 for non vtec engines. that is what im saying. sorry if this thread is that confusing but i still do appreciate everyones input. and about the b16 head im not that trusting to just get a head from anyone.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dent Free &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16 pistons are 81 mm just like the B18c,B18a or b, B17

They fit trust me

Your c/r will be around 11.1 : 1
With 404's and a lot of tuning and the regular bot ons ( cam gears, valve springs, retainers, intake, exhaust )
Should see around 180 to the ground ( give or take a little )

<U>READ THE LINKS I GAVE YOU !!!</U></TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes B16 Pistons will fit I have P30 Pistons in my LS Block!

For cams, try the Crower 404's, they are great cams! Dont waste a **** load of money on Cam gears, look up JG Engine Dynamics Cam gears, I bought mine from AN-R.com for <U>$129 shipped </U>for a PAIR ( YES, I said a PAIR)

The JG's are really light and good quality, I like them better than the SKUNK2 Cam gears, I had a set of Skunk2 cam gears when they first came out and I had nothing but problems with them jumping teeth!

 

will i need to change the rods if i change the pistons. though and the rod bearings also this **** can add up. im trying to take the easy route if there is one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pane93civhb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will i need to change the rods if i change the pistons. though and the rod bearings also this **** can add up. im trying to take the easy route if there is one. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its not as expensive as you think! You can spend less then $500 if you use the stock rods!

No you dont have to change the rods! I have P30 Pistons on LS Rods! If you were to use CTR Pistons then you have to machine the rods, but you can still use LS/B20 Rods!

 

The P30 pistons are from what motor? i get confused sometimes. the PR3's are from a b16 right? those r what i need!

 

P30's are from the JDM B16, and PR3's are from the USDM B16

 

hybrid vtec, u had problems with the skunk2 cam gears jump n teeths? those r what i have in my car. had em in for about 3 weeks now. how often did they jump teeth when u had em?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted k20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hybrid vtec, u had problems with the skunk2 cam gears jump n teeths? those r what i have in my car. had em in for about 3 weeks now. how often did they jump teeth when u had em?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pretty often, I was checking them almost everyother day! Sometimes they jumped 2 teeth, sometimes 4! I got rid of them b/c they weren't engineered very well IMO! I'm not knocking on Skunk2 Cam Gears b/c Im sure they have fixed these flaws, but must remember this is yrs ago when they first came out on the market!

if you noticed a loss in power and the car isnt running right then check your timing belt, you may have a problem, but like i said im sure this was just a flaw in their early stages of development!

 

ok well i was just put on to a deal where i can get the b16 head and the ecu and all the work done for about 1000. dollars.. i was also told that if i just add the pistons to this head in this elevation i will only gain maybe 5 horsepower even though the compression jump is so great. I was thinking put the vtec head on and also get the b16 pistons at the same time maybe then i could have like a cheap mans type r and push out good power.

 

well if your going to swap it for a h22 then stay non-vtec becuase if you do a ls/vtec you have to get the bottom end built and use arp for everything(which you should anyways) to be able to hold the 8k rpm.if not boom!ill do crower 404 cams and springs,jg cam gears.p30 pistons with arp head,and rod bolts.if you whant more power ill get a pnp head and raise the cp by using a 2 layer head gasket and maybe milling the head a bit.you can also get your tb ported out for 100 bux to a 65mm or 68mm i dont remember at maxbore.com or you can get both your tb and im ported and polished (runners also on im) by dh-racing.com also a clutch and a flywheel will help.on the flywheel you can get it lightened by dh-racing.com

 

my question is what would my cr be if i put p30 pistons in a b18a1?
my second question is what would my cr be with itr pistons both usdm and jdm?and will the fit my ls rods without any probloms like the ctr's?

also if anyone has either pistons f/s let me know.thanx