OT: Anyone with lawsuit information against Honda (for my family) :o(
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OT: Anyone with lawsuit information against Honda (for my family) :o(
Hey all. I come to you in all seriousness this afternoon. A few years back, I had a friend who was hit head on by a semi and severely injured. The airbags did not deploy. He sued Honda and Honda bought him a new Civic SI (to replace his old one)... I won't go into further details as I don't know the whole story.
This morning my sister in law Laura was in a terrible car accident with her new civic. It has maybe 5 or 6 thousand miles on it at the most. She was driving down the FL turnpike when (according to witnesses) a tire blew throwing her into continuous 360s. It forced her to strike the minivan next to her which flipped the minivan 3 times causing even more damage to her civic. Their is a considerable amount of front, rear and side damages to the civic. It was towed to the FHP inpound lot and is a total loss. The car is barely recognizable. The minivan driver amazingly walked away. Laura got out of the hospital a few hours ago and her husband Kevin (my twin brother) is taking care of her right now. I don't really know all the details yet. The airbags did NOT deploy and as I said, the car only has maybe 5K miles on it. What is the recourse (if any) against Honda for faulty air bags, tires, etc...???
Thanks for the help. I'm
Later.
Marc
This morning my sister in law Laura was in a terrible car accident with her new civic. It has maybe 5 or 6 thousand miles on it at the most. She was driving down the FL turnpike when (according to witnesses) a tire blew throwing her into continuous 360s. It forced her to strike the minivan next to her which flipped the minivan 3 times causing even more damage to her civic. Their is a considerable amount of front, rear and side damages to the civic. It was towed to the FHP inpound lot and is a total loss. The car is barely recognizable. The minivan driver amazingly walked away. Laura got out of the hospital a few hours ago and her husband Kevin (my twin brother) is taking care of her right now. I don't really know all the details yet. The airbags did NOT deploy and as I said, the car only has maybe 5K miles on it. What is the recourse (if any) against Honda for faulty air bags, tires, etc...???
Thanks for the help. I'm
Later.
Marc
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Re: OT: Anyone with lawsuit information against Honda (for my family) :o( (People_Mover)
Just because the airbags didn't deploy doesn't mean that they are faulty, takes a certain collision/accident for them to deploy AFAIK....and forget about suing about a faulty tire...
Hopefully she's ok.
Hopefully she's ok.
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Re: OT: Anyone with lawsuit information against Honda (for my family) :o( (People_Mover)
Sorry to hear about your sister in law Laura, Best wishes.
As for air bags, My father had a accident many years ago with a new 91 legend.. the air bags never activated, and the car had 16,800 in damage.
Luckily he had no injury but I always wonder about air bags and how or when they are to work...
As for air bags, My father had a accident many years ago with a new 91 legend.. the air bags never activated, and the car had 16,800 in damage.
Luckily he had no injury but I always wonder about air bags and how or when they are to work...
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i had a front end (more towards the driver side... not directly in the middle) collision goin at a very high speed and my air bags didnt deploy. i called acura and asked them wats up and they told me that it had to be head on and from my understanding a collision in rite in the middle of the front end and the reason y airbags dont deploy at times is because they r last resort thing. they also sent me a pamplet of how the airbags worked.
hope everything turns out well for ur sister in law. good luck
hope everything turns out well for ur sister in law. good luck
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It's the fact that Honda probably only has front and rear sensors for air bags
It's not like Acura or VW with SIDE air bags, as if that was the case, her air bags would have deployed
It's not like Acura or VW with SIDE air bags, as if that was the case, her air bags would have deployed
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I hope your sister in law makes a full recovery.
I would imagine that there are a number of factors to consider before going after Honda:
- Firstly, are the airbags actually faulty? Airbags will not deploy under all conditions, otherwise I'm sure they could cause unwanted injuries under certain situations. This is definitely the first thing to establish
- Secondly, would the driver's injuries be more or less serious with an airbag deploying under the exact same circumstances? This is where I think a law team would need to do a lot of investigative and even reconstructive work to establish this beyond a reasonable doubt.
If your family is considering looking further into this, then perhaps the first step is to secure technical service bulletins dealing with airbag issues of the exact same model/year vehicle. At least this will establish (in part) that Honda recognizes problems with the existing equipment.
Good luck
I would imagine that there are a number of factors to consider before going after Honda:
- Firstly, are the airbags actually faulty? Airbags will not deploy under all conditions, otherwise I'm sure they could cause unwanted injuries under certain situations. This is definitely the first thing to establish
- Secondly, would the driver's injuries be more or less serious with an airbag deploying under the exact same circumstances? This is where I think a law team would need to do a lot of investigative and even reconstructive work to establish this beyond a reasonable doubt.
If your family is considering looking further into this, then perhaps the first step is to secure technical service bulletins dealing with airbag issues of the exact same model/year vehicle. At least this will establish (in part) that Honda recognizes problems with the existing equipment.
Good luck
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Re: OT: Anyone with lawsuit information against Honda (for my family) :o( (People_Mover)
Sorry to hear, Marc.
But, everyone is correct. There are only a couple of sensors in the car and they are mainly dead center in the front & rear bumper. Besides, you probably don't want the air back to go off if you're hit at an ackword angle... that coul damange the driver & occupants even more severely.
-Sean
But, everyone is correct. There are only a couple of sensors in the car and they are mainly dead center in the front & rear bumper. Besides, you probably don't want the air back to go off if you're hit at an ackword angle... that coul damange the driver & occupants even more severely.
-Sean
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Re: OT: Anyone with lawsuit information against Honda (RacerXI)
i hope laura gets better quick.
as far as the lawsuit...
i think honda might have just given your friend the civic to shut him up. last thing they need is for someone to take them to court, etc... bad publicity.
whether or not they were truly liable.... i cant believe they would leave themselves in such a awkward position with airbags.
as far as the lawsuit...
i think honda might have just given your friend the civic to shut him up. last thing they need is for someone to take them to court, etc... bad publicity.
whether or not they were truly liable.... i cant believe they would leave themselves in such a awkward position with airbags.
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Re: OT: Anyone with lawsuit information against Honda (for my family) :o( (People_Mover)
as people have already stated, airbags only deploy during certain accidents and the way it sounds, your sister wasn't in the type of accident that would trigger the airbags to deploy. however, i would look more into as to why the tire blew out. 
regardless, best of wishes. 
regardless, best of wishes.
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You should be glad your sister in law is ok, rather then being being greedy.
Like what most people said, airbags could cause more damage then good under certain circumstances.
Its sad that the only thing people care about is how they can make $$$ when something goes wrong.
Like what most people said, airbags could cause more damage then good under certain circumstances.
Its sad that the only thing people care about is how they can make $$$ when something goes wrong.
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Re: (SwiftTypeR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SwiftTypeR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You should be glad your sister in law is ok, rather then being being greedy.
Its sad that the only thing people care about is how they can make $$$ when something goes wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you serious? The guy got on asking if we thought Honda may be liable for the airbags not deploying.
Did he ever ask if we think they will give him a new car? No, exactly.
Next time read you douche bag.
Marc, hope your sis in law is ok and that everything works out.
Its sad that the only thing people care about is how they can make $$$ when something goes wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you serious? The guy got on asking if we thought Honda may be liable for the airbags not deploying.
Did he ever ask if we think they will give him a new car? No, exactly.
Next time read you douche bag.
Marc, hope your sis in law is ok and that everything works out.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rainman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hope your sister in law makes a full recovery.
I would imagine that there are a number of factors to consider before going after Honda:
- Firstly, are the airbags actually faulty? Airbags will not deploy under all conditions, otherwise I'm sure they could cause unwanted injuries under certain situations. This is definitely the first thing to establish
- Secondly, would the driver's injuries be more or less serious with an airbag deploying under the exact same circumstances? This is where I think a law team would need to do a lot of investigative and even reconstructive work to establish this beyond a reasonable doubt.
If your family is considering looking further into this, then perhaps the first step is to secure technical service bulletins dealing with airbag issues of the exact same model/year vehicle. At least this will establish (in part) that Honda recognizes problems with the existing equipment.
Good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>
well said, and some good advice
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4-1-1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do you know the parts are faulty? Maybe the tire was damaged beforehand? </TD></TR></TABLE>
that is true...
its a difficult situation, your best chance would be if honda just didn't want to deal with lawyers and courts and they would settle something outside the court. If they actually decided to fight back, then it would be tough to say how the turn out would be. Whatever you all decide to do, I'm glad to hear the Laura is alright, and I wish her a fast recovery. If you need anything give me a call marc
I would imagine that there are a number of factors to consider before going after Honda:
- Firstly, are the airbags actually faulty? Airbags will not deploy under all conditions, otherwise I'm sure they could cause unwanted injuries under certain situations. This is definitely the first thing to establish
- Secondly, would the driver's injuries be more or less serious with an airbag deploying under the exact same circumstances? This is where I think a law team would need to do a lot of investigative and even reconstructive work to establish this beyond a reasonable doubt.
If your family is considering looking further into this, then perhaps the first step is to secure technical service bulletins dealing with airbag issues of the exact same model/year vehicle. At least this will establish (in part) that Honda recognizes problems with the existing equipment.
Good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>
well said, and some good advice
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4-1-1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How do you know the parts are faulty? Maybe the tire was damaged beforehand? </TD></TR></TABLE>
that is true...
its a difficult situation, your best chance would be if honda just didn't want to deal with lawyers and courts and they would settle something outside the court. If they actually decided to fight back, then it would be tough to say how the turn out would be. Whatever you all decide to do, I'm glad to hear the Laura is alright, and I wish her a fast recovery. If you need anything give me a call marc
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rainman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
- Firstly, are the airbags actually faulty? Airbags will not deploy under all conditions, otherwise I'm sure they could cause unwanted injuries under certain situations. This is definitely the first thing to establish
- Secondly, would the driver's injuries be more or less serious with an airbag deploying under the exact same circumstances? This is where I think a law team would need to do a lot of investigative and even reconstructive work to establish this beyond a reasonable doubt.
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This sounds like a reasoned response. If they want to pursue this, it's not going to be easy, and it'll take a good lawyer with access to a resourceful investigative team.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by People_Mover »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...as I don't know the whole story.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If your mind changes as the facts develop for you, I think we'd be interested in knowing.
Very best of luck to her. In the end, surviving an accident like that on the US high speed highways is a miracle.
- Firstly, are the airbags actually faulty? Airbags will not deploy under all conditions, otherwise I'm sure they could cause unwanted injuries under certain situations. This is definitely the first thing to establish
- Secondly, would the driver's injuries be more or less serious with an airbag deploying under the exact same circumstances? This is where I think a law team would need to do a lot of investigative and even reconstructive work to establish this beyond a reasonable doubt.
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This sounds like a reasoned response. If they want to pursue this, it's not going to be easy, and it'll take a good lawyer with access to a resourceful investigative team.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by People_Mover »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...as I don't know the whole story.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If your mind changes as the facts develop for you, I think we'd be interested in knowing.
Very best of luck to her. In the end, surviving an accident like that on the US high speed highways is a miracle.
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Re: OT: Anyone with lawsuit information against Honda (BoostR41)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude it flipped a mini van 3 times it was going fast enough to cause an impact that would deploy the bags</TD></TR></TABLE>
EXACTLY!
EXACTLY!
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Good to hear that your sister in law is ok. That's the most important thing.
And the flipping minivan part? I'd rather see the police report. A Civic will need a considerable amount of speed to overcome the mass of the average minivan to "flip it". Which might indicate excessive speed on the Civics part (I'm not pointing fingers). More than likely, the Civic ended up hitting the minivan and it caused the minivan to veer off and flip. I sincerely doubt the impact from a Civic caused a minivan to flip end on end.
Not sure what to say about the whole airbag situation but I hate people who get all riled up like ambulance chasers without knowing all the facts.
And the flipping minivan part? I'd rather see the police report. A Civic will need a considerable amount of speed to overcome the mass of the average minivan to "flip it". Which might indicate excessive speed on the Civics part (I'm not pointing fingers). More than likely, the Civic ended up hitting the minivan and it caused the minivan to veer off and flip. I sincerely doubt the impact from a Civic caused a minivan to flip end on end.
Not sure what to say about the whole airbag situation but I hate people who get all riled up like ambulance chasers without knowing all the facts.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by El Pollo Diablo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just because the airbags didn't deploy doesn't mean that they are faulty, takes a certain collision/accident for them to deploy AFAIK....and forget about suing about a faulty tire...
Hopefully she's ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Honda/Acura Airbags are known for these problems. They miss a number of collisions that an airbag(s) can be useful for. An offset collsion for example (in the front) will NOT set them off. That's just plain retarded IMO. Sure, if you hit a brick wall with the full front of the car at 60mph, they'll PROBABLY go off...
Then a friend got hit on the front left corner in a 00 civic and both bags went off (hit from the side, not the front) but a 40mph offset (like asspenny's in his gs-r) doesn't set them off.. gotta wonder who setup that ****.
Marc: Very very very sorry to hear about Laura. Your bro, Laura, etc have my condolences
Thankfully she was released from the hospital and will hopefully fully recover.
Hopefully she's ok.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Honda/Acura Airbags are known for these problems. They miss a number of collisions that an airbag(s) can be useful for. An offset collsion for example (in the front) will NOT set them off. That's just plain retarded IMO. Sure, if you hit a brick wall with the full front of the car at 60mph, they'll PROBABLY go off...
Then a friend got hit on the front left corner in a 00 civic and both bags went off (hit from the side, not the front) but a 40mph offset (like asspenny's in his gs-r) doesn't set them off.. gotta wonder who setup that ****.
Marc: Very very very sorry to hear about Laura. Your bro, Laura, etc have my condolences
Thankfully she was released from the hospital and will hopefully fully recover.
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Re: OT: Anyone with lawsuit information against Honda (Dave-ROR)
I know this is not pretaining to marc. Last winter I got in a bad accident and was t boned by a semi. My gf was in the passenger seat and I was just glad we both walked away with no serious injuries even though my back hurts some times. All I got out of it was 3000 (what a 93 coupe is worth in delaware). Anyways I was just happy we were both ok. Now my air bag never went out which i thought was funny but like they said only way they really go off is if 1) its a direct impact or 2) your an idiot who decides to **** with an airbag while removing a steering wheel . Hope your sister is ok and I think Honda would destroy anyone who went against them in court because they know how the air bag was suppose to work and could just say hey it wasnt a direct impact.....
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. Hope your sister is ok and I think Honda would destroy anyone who went against them in court because they know how the air bag was suppose to work and could just say hey it wasnt a direct impact.....DEF