New mod, can you spot it?
Not enough seat time for a review yet so I figured I'd see if you guys can picture what's new on the caR. Plus I think Haleiwa-Brando is getting a leg up on me posting pictures
hehehe
Joo can see the newness in this pic.

And in these two.


Hehe you can see them in those pics but I dunno if anybody will get it so I'll give you guys a hint.
Better modulation
heheheJoo can see the newness in this pic.

And in these two.


Hehe you can see them in those pics but I dunno if anybody will get it so I'll give you guys a hint.
Better modulation
Well, you said them , so there is def. more than one.
Are you sure you chose modulation for the right word here?
At any rate...I don't spy the spoon calipers like these guys say they do...but, in my best guess you upgraded your brakes in some manner.
Are you sure you chose modulation for the right word here?
At any rate...I don't spy the spoon calipers like these guys say they do...but, in my best guess you upgraded your brakes in some manner.
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I'm using Axxis Ultimates on the street (and what I've used the two times I've had the R on track) but have a set of Cobalt Spec VRs that I'm planning on using on the track in the future. For now stock lines been considering picking up some Goodridge lines though.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Batoutahell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Legend calipers = better modulation, but less clamping force. Too bad there's a trade-off.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That I didn't know. Wonder if my stopping distances will be increased?
That I didn't know. Wonder if my stopping distances will be increased?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Batoutahell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Legend calipers = better modulation, but less clamping force. Too bad there's a trade-off.</TD></TR></TABLE>yikes! didnt know this either...i'm hoping the spoons dont have this "trade-off". they are high on my wish list.
Your stopping distances won't be affected unless you use R compound tires. Legend calipers can lock up your brakes with azenis, so the decreased clamping force isn't a problem.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Batoutahell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your stopping distances won't be affected unless you use R compound tires. Legend calipers can lock up your brakes with azenis, so the decreased clamping force isn't a problem.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good to know. I can still lock up my brakes, tested them yesterday
Does anyone know the size of the piston in the stock ITR caliper?
Good to know. I can still lock up my brakes, tested them yesterday
Does anyone know the size of the piston in the stock ITR caliper?
Just out of curiosity, any particular reason you decided to mod the brakes? I'm asking because imho they're one of, if not the most efficient parts of the Type R out of the box.
Jason-
who loves his ITR brakes
Jason-
who loves his ITR brakes
In order of braking force:
ITR = 57mm
Legend = 38 and 42mm
NSX = 36 and 40 mm
Jason, even here in the midwest, the Franzanator's braking is Legendary (no pun intended). However, I have a theory why you seem to get so much satisfaction out of your brakes, while many HPDE'rs do not. The most important factor is the driver, and I doubt very many ITR owners can match your driving/braking skills. Second, I'm assuming you have brake ducting, whereas most hpde ITR's do not. Third, I think it is very likely that an ITR at a HPDE will be hard on its brakes more than you will in a race because of traffic that makes threshhold braking is impossible or undesirable in many race situations.
I agree the power of ITR's brakes is excellent. However, they are a bit sloppy in initial engagement feel and feedback. The Legend calipers offer better pedal feel, they are easier to modulate, although the tradeoff is they offer less overall braking force than ITR calipers. My "guess" would be the Spoon calipers offer even less braking force. However, until I find calipers that can't lock up azenis, I'll opt for calipers that offer better pedal modulation (everything else being the same).
ITR = 57mm
Legend = 38 and 42mm
NSX = 36 and 40 mm
Jason, even here in the midwest, the Franzanator's braking is Legendary (no pun intended). However, I have a theory why you seem to get so much satisfaction out of your brakes, while many HPDE'rs do not. The most important factor is the driver, and I doubt very many ITR owners can match your driving/braking skills. Second, I'm assuming you have brake ducting, whereas most hpde ITR's do not. Third, I think it is very likely that an ITR at a HPDE will be hard on its brakes more than you will in a race because of traffic that makes threshhold braking is impossible or undesirable in many race situations.
I agree the power of ITR's brakes is excellent. However, they are a bit sloppy in initial engagement feel and feedback. The Legend calipers offer better pedal feel, they are easier to modulate, although the tradeoff is they offer less overall braking force than ITR calipers. My "guess" would be the Spoon calipers offer even less braking force. However, until I find calipers that can't lock up azenis, I'll opt for calipers that offer better pedal modulation (everything else being the same).
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Batoutahell »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the tradeoff is they offer less overall braking force than ITR calipers. </TD></TR></TABLE>
But is that a problem? Even OE pads will lock up r-tires, and most of us track junkies are running XP8 or XP9s.
But is that a problem? Even OE pads will lock up r-tires, and most of us track junkies are running XP8 or XP9s.



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