Hey yall, My CRX motor has about had it. and The clutch is starting to go. Heres my problem. I wana keep the car. but I dont wana put more money into it then its worth. Should I rebuild the D and do a mini me swap. OOOOOOR do the b serries swap. heres the problem. If I do any of those. Do you think ill get my money back out of it????

Im just currious, cause im not REALLLLLLLY into hondas. I like them no doubt, but I have a Talon TSI AWD to take care of too. one reason I bought a honda, Cause there so damn Reliabil. but I dont wana make it a money pit either.

 

you most likely will not get your money back when u sell the car. unless you completely half *** the motor install and doing it crappy.

a SOHC ZC obd-0 would be a great replacement motor. you can get them for around $500

 

fix clutch and sell...

b16 to do right is 4k$ plus

mini-me...... so much work, unreliable... (i know not completely unreliable if done properly)....

dx or si, if it's dx or std it's gonna be a hassle to swap to mpfi to do zc or d16

zc properly done (new clutch, timing belt, water pump, tune up stuff, oil pan gasket ect....) prolly around 1200+$

d16..... well motor will run u 200+ depending if tranny is included then still u'll need what zc and b16 ect...would need just to freshen it up...

 

Well, I would LIKE to keep the car. Im thinkin of doing the mini-me swap. Even though there wiring that needs to be done, yata yata yata. but I figgure if I do that, with a clutch, and do a little rebuilding on the motor. ill be good for another 150K miles. in the end will save me butt loads of money right???

 

Clutch's are $150 from Clutchmasters and Hondas are much easier to work on than DSMs'. I know, I had a GST with a ported 16g and supporting mods. But my CRX OWNS my old Eclipse in reliability, ease of maintance, and overall costs. A clutch job on a honda will take about 2-3 hours alone. Also, a B16 hatch with bolt-ons can run low 14s and hang with GSXs' and TSis' all day. D-series need alittle more help but can do the same. Get a DOHCZC, all the boltons, then retard the timing and squeeze a 55 shot with some Exospeed regrinded cams. You'll definitely be surprised by the performance vs costs. - Darrell

 

if you are not into the car and don't want to put much I would say just get a used zc that is like the stock si motor and swap out and put a new low budget clutch kit to get you going so if you sell it you don't lose out too much. it is easier to sell a car that is close to stock than one that is modified.

 

yea re sale values suck, u can either do it stock with a cheap motor or do it nasty put a b series in it and keep it

 

serioulsy u wont get the cash out of what u put in it with a swap. keep the stock motor and just change the clutch. keep it simple and reliable!

u never said what model. i would do a a6 swap !!

 

Where you located at man, sell me your CRX.

Hopefully it's not an Si

 

dude just pull the motor put all new gaskets rings and bearings new clutch kit new timing belt water pump put it back in and the thing will last you another 150k miles and just beast on your dsm if your worried about getting money back dont swap it a b16 swap installed around me is 3200 there is no way i would pay say 3500 for a crx with a b16 in it not knowing the history of the car/motor you know......if I were in your situation I would just do a rebuild and use it like that

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX T-Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where you located at man, sell me your CRX.

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What do you have against SI?

 

jus buy a z6 and drop it in....save the rest of the money on the talon.....if thats not enough power then build the head before u drop it

 

Wow, b16 swap 4000+? 3000+? I did mine on my own for just over 2000, and not halfassed either. The only half assed stuff I did on the swap were maybe the 4 added wires. But I have to admit, my swap was probably one of the more worry free ones.

 

Im in WPB, its a 89 CRX DX\STD.

 

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please explain. I want parts used and prices, you had to of cut corners some where.

 

Preface: I now have a CRX with a B16 with boltons and cams.

I can probably answer your question better than most. Pictured above was my old eclipse gsx. In fact I still use it as my avatar to make the honda guys mad.

A dsm probably has one of the best dollar for dollar performance out there tied with a 5.0 mustang. My eclipse ran pretty consistant 12.50 at 110. The problem is that while I loved the car, having it as a daily driver (and I drove it everywhere from from the track to the grocery strore). It sucked *** on gas. It alwasy required little maintenance to keep an eye on like boost tubes and ignition.

If I was in your situation, I would say keep the CRX for the daily. Just get a cheap single cam and put it in. A DSM is best as weekend car unless it is completely stock and what is the point of that. I sold my eclipse because at this point in my life, I could not afford two cars and I needed a daily. I got a CRX and am very happy with it.


Modified by V8SHME8 at 9:13 AM 10/1/2004

 

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I have an 88 Si and I don't like the rusty sunroof.

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Hey I am gonna go to WPB this weekend later on Saturday night, wanna meet up and see if you want to sell it or fix it??

 

If I were you I would look for a good running d16 motor and just put it in your car.. You can buy a used running d16 motor for cheaper than you can rebuild your motor..

 

yah dude if you want, hit me up on AIM. Im pulling the trans tonight, and getting prices from the junkyard today.

 

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My swap cost about that much. Here is what I paid (all prices include tax/shipping):

B16A1 from hmotorsonline.com - $1643
HASport mounts off of EBay - $330
New waterpump and timing belt - $100
Misc hoses, clamps, etc - $20
Mobil 1 oil and oil filter - $30

Total cost - $2123

Leaving cars in the dust on the freeway for the first time in your new B16 CRX - Priceless

The engine came with the rear tranny bracket ($20 - $50 saved), axles (at least $150 saved), and shift linkage (another $150 saved). Get your motor from hmotorsonline.com and get the full swap!

I don't know how the hell the guy got $4000+ for the cost of the swap! By the time next summer rolls around that will be my total cost. But that is because I will have added intake ($150), header ($300), exhaust ($400), cams ($500), valvetrain ($300), and a new clutch ($350).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pogiTSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey yall, My CRX motor has about had it. and The clutch is starting to go. Heres my problem. I wana keep the car. but I dont wana put more money into it then its worth. Should I rebuild the D and do a mini me swap. OOOOOOR do the b serries swap. heres the problem. If I do any of those. Do you think ill get my money back out of it????

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In your post you say you have a bad clutch.
Putting a mini-me, B-series, ZC or whatever isn't going to fix your clutch.

You also said, "I wana keep the car".
Then you said, "Do you think ill get my money back out of it????"

So are you keeping it or selling it?
No matter what you do, you aren't going to get your money back. The car is 13+ years old and has a low blue-book value. If you are seriously going to keep it then make it a car you want. If you want 300hp then go spend $7,000 and get a built block and a bgit fat turbo to sit on the front of it.
If you just want to have a fuel friendly commuter car, then change your clutch and get on with more upgrades to your Talon. When your Honda quits working, sell it and get another engine. I won't suggest you rebuild your engine becuase it's going to cost you atleast $500 for a proper long lasting rebuild that includes all the parts and labor. You get to disassemble and reassasemble the engine and then install it back in the car yourself or you get to pay more.

I wouldn't suggest you go buy and engine and EXPECT it to have any more life left in it than what your current engine has. B16A1's are over 10 years old. You would be REALLY lucky if you happen to buy one that somebody rebuilt. With over 10 years on it, you can expect a rebuild in your future = $$$$. You will most likely need a clutch sooner than that.

Best bet for a cheap replacement/upgrade would probably be a newer Y8 or a low milage Z6. Atleast with these motors you can usually see the car that it came out of and verify what kind of milage it really has on it. Companies like to sell those JDM motors and say "under 40k miles on the motor"... oh really - try proving it. That thing is over 10 year old... 40k miles my ***.

 

my 90 hatch dx was had for 400 bucks.. it came with agx shocks, skunk coilovers and a blown z6 motor and no front bumper.. my cousin sold me his gsr bottom with itr head for 1500.. i bought hasport billet mounts, linkage, harness, sparco wheel, thermal exhaust, crx si seats, gsr console, and ww rs front bumper for 150 dollars... yes! one hundred fifty so i mean.. if u could find the right pricing for the car u would get your money back plus more.. i could go and sell the car now for a good 4-5 g's and make 3 off it.. u can make ur money back easy.. swapping a b16 wont cost u more than 2500.. keep the crx..