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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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Can a gsr head fit on a b16 block????
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22acivicman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can a gsr head fit on a b16 block????</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes it's a direct bolt-on affair.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HTechBB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It will work, you only get HP not much torque at all. Your top end will pull like a champ though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was always under the impression that the B16 head was better (by better I mean flow capabilities) than the GSR head, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ptran13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was always under the impression that the B16 head was better (by better I mean flow capabilities) than the GSR head, correct me if I'm wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actual flow differences, as measured on several different flow benches, are small enough for it not really to matter. People are making tons of power with either head, both are equally capable of being ported, etc. The biggest difference is the smaller pent-roof combustion chamber of the GSR head which raises the compression of an engine slightly and offers a different level of combustion chamber effeciency.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Actual flow differences, as measured on several different flow benches, are small enough for it not really to matter. People are making tons of power with either head, both are equally capable of being ported, etc. The biggest difference is the smaller pent-roof combustion chamber of the GSR head which raises the compression of an engine slightly and offers a different level of combustion chamber effeciency.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What about cam profiles? Are the cams better in one head than the other? If they are so similar, why wouldn't all of Hondas DOHC VTEC heads be the same?
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:56 AM
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there were threads on this before...but this is a good question.

from what i've collected:

"b16a head flows better than GSR...CTR/ITR flows the best"

"we use gsr cams in our stock jdm b-16 with stock type r head and manifold an t/b 175 to the wheels they do great much better than b-16 cams"

"also, the 1st gen b16 cams are milder than the 2nd gen cams. Therefor if it is a 1st gen b16 the gsr cams will give a slight improvement"

"I wouldn't use GS-R cams on a B16 head. THe GS-R non-vtec lobes are made to peak @ 4400rpm , unlike B16 lobes that peak @ 5600? From 4400- 5600 u will be losing power"
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:59 AM
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a type R head will def make a difference.
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JinDIESEL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a type R head will def make a difference. </TD></TR></TABLE>

doesn't that have more in common with the b16 head?
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Old Sep 30, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ptran13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">doesn't that have more in common with the b16 head?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes...from what ive read there basically the same cast, with the ITR head having the obvious better internals.
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